(Video) Legal or Illegal Screen

[JRutledge]

The defender took like three steps before there was contact, for anyone to say he did not have time to change direction (which is not the rule) is really kind of silly.

This screen is legal all the way.

Peace

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If the contact took place at the point represented in this picture then I'd say illegal but the screener had enough time to correct himself and the defender had enough time to stop or change direction.

The screener in your picture is not legal. By the time he gets legal and contact does occur the time/distance requirement has not been met.

[BlueDevilRef]

Ugly/clumsy/hard contact is not an automatic violation or foul. This is just a hard screen in the backcourt.

Only "foul" here was the defenders teammates not calling out the pick.


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[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Illegal, I think the screener comes to a complete stop right before contact, which is not enough time/distance for how fast the defender is moving. Plus it's a bullshit play in the backcourt and I want to clean that up.

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

[ODog]

Late to the party here, but firmly in the Legal camp.

When I clicked on the thread with "Video" in the subject line, I thought, "Oh boy!"

Then after watching it, my reaction was, "How is this thread multiple pages?"

Originally Posted by Rich

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

The part where I give my reasoning for why I don't think time/distance were met or the part about this being a cleanup/game management play?

[Raymond]

He doesn't have to be vertical when the strides start, just in the path. At time of contact he was legal: at the spot first and within his cylinder.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

The part where I give my reasoning for why I don't think time/distance were met or the part about this being a cleanup/game management play?

The latter.

[JRutledge]

Someone is going to have to explain to me how much damn time are you supposed to be given? The defender takes like 3 steps before any contact. All that is considered illegal is what happens at the time of contact after you have been getting ready to set a screen. The screen was not blind either and had more than a normal step.

Peace

[deecee]

Legal.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The defender takes like 3 steps before any contact. All that is considered illegal is what happens at the time of contact after you have been getting ready to set a screen. The screen was not blind either and had more than a normal step.

+1. I like how you pointed out that the screen WAS in the visual field of the defender (contrary to some previous opinions). The fact that the defender chose to focus on something else in his visual field (the ball handler) does not make the screen blind.

Big fat no call here. Maybe even a push on the defender if the screener had been significantly displaced, but I'd try not to go there unless I had to.

Easy kind of call to get surprised by. These are the type that are really good to look at once in a while. You just might see it in your next game.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

+1. I like how you pointed out that the screen WAS in the visual field of the defender (contrary to some previous opinions). The fact that the defender chose to focus on something else in his visual field (the ball handler) does not make the screen blind.

Big fat no call here. Maybe even a push on the defender if the screener had been significantly displaced, but I'd try not to go there unless I had to.

Easy kind of call to get surprised by. These are the type that are really good to look at once in a while. You just might see it in your next game.

Bravo!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

The screener in your picture is not legal. By the time he gets legal and contact does occur the time/distance requirement has not been met.

Unfortunately, that isn't what the rules require. He (his torso) was in the path in time...that is all that is required by the time/distance/screening rules. Everything else only matters at the time of contact. And even then, it might not be relevant.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

Agree. Why clean up a legal and entirely legitimate play? Blame the defenders team for hanging their teammate out to dry.

[APG]

Legal. Didn't think it's that close either