(Video) Legal or Illegal Screen

[Dad]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Legal.

The screener meets the requirements of 4-40-5.

Clearly plenty of room as the defender takes two strides before he makes contact with the screener.

This doesn't matter. You can't jump in front of someone who has taken two strides and claim two strides. Defender is pushing off his left foot when the screen is set. He slams into it on his right foot.

Illegal, I think the screener comes to a complete stop right before contact, which is not enough time/distance for how fast the defender is moving. Plus it's a bullshit play in the backcourt and I want to clean that up.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Illegal, I think the screener comes to a complete stop right before contact, which is not enough time/distance for how fast the defender is moving. Plus it's a bullshit play in the backcourt and I want to clean that up.

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

[ODog]

Late to the party here, but firmly in the Legal camp.

When I clicked on the thread with "Video" in the subject line, I thought, "Oh boy!"

Then after watching it, my reaction was, "How is this thread multiple pages?"

Originally Posted by Rich

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

The part where I give my reasoning for why I don't think time/distance were met or the part about this being a cleanup/game management play?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

The part where I give my reasoning for why I don't think time/distance were met or the part about this being a cleanup/game management play?

The latter.

[JRutledge]

Someone is going to have to explain to me how much damn time are you supposed to be given? The defender takes like 3 steps before any contact. All that is considered illegal is what happens at the time of contact after you have been getting ready to set a screen. The screen was not blind either and had more than a normal step.

Peace

[deecee]

Legal.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The defender takes like 3 steps before any contact. All that is considered illegal is what happens at the time of contact after you have been getting ready to set a screen. The screen was not blind either and had more than a normal step.

+1. I like how you pointed out that the screen WAS in the visual field of the defender (contrary to some previous opinions). The fact that the defender chose to focus on something else in his visual field (the ball handler) does not make the screen blind.

Big fat no call here. Maybe even a push on the defender if the screener had been significantly displaced, but I'd try not to go there unless I had to.

Easy kind of call to get surprised by. These are the type that are really good to look at once in a while. You just might see it in your next game.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Horrible philosophy. Not surprising to me you'd spew this nonsense.

Agree. Why clean up a legal and entirely legitimate play? Blame the defenders team for hanging their teammate out to dry.

[APG]

Legal. Didn't think it's that close either

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agree. Why clean up a legal and entirely legitimate play? Blame the defenders team for hanging their teammate out to dry.

Great point. And, this video clearly shows the red player's bench area watching the play and offering no visible assistance. The coach is even looking up court getting ready to make a decision about a half court set - which is what I'd probably expect to be doing.

Edit: Is this a h.s. game? Check out those high falootin' officials wearing NBA shirts. Must be nice.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Edit: Is this a h.s. game? Check out those high falootin' officials wearing NBA shirts. Must be nice.

There are several areas that wear grey shirts. They actually look nothing like the NBA other than they are not black and white striped.

Peace

[Welpe]

Legal and not that close IMO.

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Edit: Is this a h.s. game? Check out those high falootin' officials wearing NBA shirts. Must be nice.

Yes it is. This is a game between two Houston area high schools. Most Texas chapters, at least at the varsity level, wear grey with pinstripes. They don't look like the NBA style shirts either though they do wear NBA style shirts at the state tournament.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Legal and not that close IMO.



Yes it is. This is a game between two Houston area high schools. Most Texas chapters, at least at the varsity level, wear grey with pinstripes. They don't look like the NBA style shirts either though they do wear NBA style shirts at the state tournament.

Sweet! Good looking uniforms.