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Old Thu Dec 03, 2015, 07:08pm
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To the Virginia officials ...

A board colleague of mine in Mass. (which is an IAABO state, FWIW), says he just (as in the last few weeks) made a move to to your state and already has a varsity schedule.

This marks the beginning of his third season (possibly 2nd?) and he has never done a varsity game. In fact, he has done very few high school games in general (10-15 at best; more likely single digits).

He is in his 20s, looks the part and is a voracious camp/clinic attender as well as a prolific summer official, though college assignors have so far declined to pick him up. He has average talent.

I know Va. is a large state and customs can vary from board to board, county to county, but does this seem plausible?

"Anything is possible" of course, but it struck me as odd that someone could so easily slide into varsity games in another state (particularly someone so inexperienced).

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Old Thu Dec 03, 2015, 07:35pm
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If the powers that be didn't ask for references and just asked him what level he felt he was at and ran with it, I could see this happening.

And if you're in a small enough area and hard up for officials, I could see this happening.

But most places, this is HIGHLY unlikely in my opinion.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2015, 08:44pm
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I'm in Central VA and just accepted my first varsity assignment today. I'm in my second year of high school ball and don't think I'm anything special (I'm mainly doing this to stay close to the game), but I'm glad that my assigners think highly of me. Last year my schedule was middle and 9th grade with a few JV sprinkled in.

I don't think my association is particularly hurting for guys, but maybe that's the case. I don't really know
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2015, 09:19pm
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Depends what part of VA he is in. In Northern VA they have a couple evaluation games and they see what you got. For mine, you ref a game and tell them how long you've been in. There are quite a few associations (13), so it really depends who he is with.
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Old Thu Dec 03, 2015, 09:49pm
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I live in NVA and am in a very large Association (I caveat my comments by stating I am not on the Board and am stating what I observe, not what I know as exact fact).

IMO, it's tough to crack then V ranks here as there are a great many seasoned HS/College Officials in our ranks and not many vacancies to fill annually. We have a good many eager, young, good officials waiting for their opportunity. It's competitive. No shortage of officials here.

We have an extensive evaluation process for the junior officials and a camp (based on evaluations) to allow the F/JV officials to work their way up the ranks. Once these officials move up, they become "swing officials" - getting a game here and there when an opening happens due to a lot of games, illness, turn-back, etc.

We do get transfers in who are evaluated in the annual scrimmages, and if capable, can move right on in. I don't know how often it happens though, depends on the amount of openings I suppose. One of my partners last Tues (opening night) was a transfer from Texas and he had a BV game right out of the shoot.

I believe our officials are brought along at a fair pace (I'm sure if you asked some jr officials they would say it's too slow), and are seldom over their heads or thrown to the dogs at the V level due to a lack of capable officials.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 12:36am
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 02:02am
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Seems plausible. I went from doing my first CYO game on Dec. 8, 2012 to having 61 varsity games this year in my fourth season, all from working tons of summer ball and attending every camp I could find. That and reading The Official Forum.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 09:25am
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By that description ... doesnt sound like anyone we have here in the Shenandoah Valley
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2015, 10:12am
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The real test will be to see his schedule next season.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 08:54am
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Our football schedules are generally not assigned. Schools contact directly with crews and usually do it as soon as they contract the games. That means it often starts 4-5 years out. Our crew already has three games scheduled for 2020.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:20pm
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Wow, 2-3 years out? We're lucky to get 2-3 days out for our first wave of games.

Hoop season around here starts THIS WEEK and we don't have our assignments yet!
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:25pm
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Wow, 2-3 years out? We're lucky to get 2-3 days out for our first wave of games.

Hoop season around here starts THIS WEEK and we don't have our assignments yet!
This is freaking ridiculous as well. There is no way the assignor is still waiting to find out where and when the games for next week are going to be. The fact that he cannot get assignments out at this stage is just plain laziness.
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2015, 11:34pm
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This is freaking ridiculous as well. There is no way the assignor is still waiting to find out where and when the games for next week are going to be. The fact that he cannot get assignments out at this stage is just plain laziness.
I agree with that too. At least a month, but no more than 2-3 is about right.
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I'll get my January schedule the week of Christmas....
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2015, 12:52am
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This is freaking ridiculous as well. There is no way the assignor is still waiting to find out where and when the games for next week are going to be. The fact that he cannot get assignments out at this stage is just plain laziness.
My "regular" job is one that schedules week-to-week (hey, I'm only 23!). I have a relatively consistent schedule, but sometimes I have to work the odd shift that I'm not expecting because that's just how it is. So every week is a constant sweat between "can I work my job?" or "can I accept my games/what dates do I block on Arbiter this week?"

For football I got my assignments at least two weeks in advance. For baseball I got damn near my entire schedule before the season even started. Is basketball honestly that much more difficult? I'm not an assignor, so I really don't know.
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