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Rob1968 Sat Nov 21, 2015 09:59am

1979 Player-control foul limited to the player holding or dribbling the ball

1983 An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try and has not returned to the floor; player control extended to include the airborne shooter

Scrapper1 Wed Nov 25, 2015 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by Danvrapp (Post 970097)
To me, this implies that in previous years, a collegiate player could have left the floor, released a shot, <i>then plowed into a defender,</i> been whistled for a PC, have the ball go in the basket, and <b>still have been credited with two points!</b>

Any truth to this one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 970098)
Yes.

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 970099)
In NCAAM, yes.

Actually, no. It has never been the case that a player could be charged with a player control foul and still score a basket.

When a player control foul occurs -- in NFHS or NCAA, for as long as I can remember -- the ball is dead immediately.

In previous years, an airborne shooter could release a try then charge into a defender and the basket would count; but that's because it was not a player control foul. Once the try was released, player control ended. So it was simply a common foul with no team control (like a rebounding foul); and if the ball went in, the basket was scored. But if the charge occurred prior to the release of the try, then it was a player control foul (since the shooter was still holding the ball), and no basket could be scored.

This year the definition of "player control foul" was changed to include a common foul by an airborne shooter.

I know I'm being a stickler, and I know Rich and Jet both know this. But I thought it might be important to understand exactly why the old rule yielded that strange result, and it no longer does.


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