There's no foolin' you sharpies...

What if the defense calls the timeout?

Does the rule say "time out" or "offensive time out"?"

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No.

Well, unless the offense calls a subsequent one.

Of course, there's another layer of intrigue if the time out is granted with 0:59.9 or less in the 4th quarter or overtime.

All of this is going to be a thrill for my GV games in NY. The state is still deciding how many of the rule changes to adopt (I've been told the goal is to bring in as many as possible).

Yep.

And in your OP (defense tips the ball, it goes OOB adjacent to the FC) -- can the offense choose to "advance" the ball?

The rule says "out of bounds IN the backcourt" -- and that's a contradiction -- the throw-in is neither in the FC or in the BC.

BTW, if you see Jon at / before your meeting in Philly, tell him he did a great job with his "layered plays" breakout

I have no idea, so I'm asking, but I thought the ball could only be advanced immediately after a change of possession--made basket, rebound, steal, turnover?

I *think* that if B fouls or commits a floor violation, that A again has the option to advance (by taking a TO).

I'm thinking Jon may change the wording in the book. Towards the end of the summer he was phrasing this as "OOB on a boundary bordering the backcourt."



a. the ball is out of bounds (at a boundary bordering) the backcourt, except for the correction of a timing or scoring mistake, an inadvertent whistle, a held ball, a technical foul assessed to the team in control, or an injury, blood situation or a lost or displaced lens after the team has advanced the ball, or
b. after securing the ball from a rebound in the backcourt and before any advance of the ball, or
c. after the offensive team secures control of the ball from a change of possession and before any advance of the ball

Advance of the ball = The player in control does anything with the ball other than hold it.

What Bob mentioned comes under Category A since the ball would be awarded to Team A OOB.


He lives for those things :)

That would help. He does a good job with his writing, but this rule could be more clear, imo (too many "ands" and "ors", part (a) contains 5 exceptions, and someone is going to be confused on whether the "has advanced" clause applies to all the exceptions or only to the injury/blood/contact exception)

Maybe I wrote it wrong in my notes (entirely possible but the person sitting next to me wrote the same thing), but I wrote "Timeout, either team, new 10). Like I said maybe I wrote it wrong, heard Jon wrong, etc.

You wrote it wrong :D

All the slides I've seen say offensive time-out resets the count.

That is what I thought but I just sent the question into Jon just to make sure. :D

I think we all agree now that in the play above, the answer is "2 seconds."

But, what if the throw-in (from adjacent to the FC), is a "bounce pass" that first hits the floor in the FC? Does that give A a new 10-seconds?

What if the ball is touched / tipped (not controlled) by A2 in the FC and deflects to the BC where it is recovered?

This would be why there's an "Ask Jon" section on the hub :D

Since there is no true TC during a throw-in, I say the ball does not have FC status in either scenario.