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BigCat Wed Sep 16, 2015 05:51pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966762)
Why do you need to tell the coach anything? Do you tell them something everything you call a violation they do not like?

Peace

This post comes off as you being critical of Bryan. You are questioning him on telling the coach something. He said he is not talking to the coach. He is/was the first one in the thread to say, in response to a comment, that he wont talk to the coach. Read back a few posts and you will see that..

BryanV21 Wed Sep 16, 2015 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966764)
I did not say anything about having a huge discussion, that was someone else. But if I call or do not call something, I am not having a discussion with the coach as to why. And I am not going to talk about why I did or did not do something earlier.

Peace

I didn't say you brought up the "huge discussion" thing. I was pointing out how my original post was being twisted.

Anyway... I agree. And looking at my replies I think that's apparent.

JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 08:43am

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Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 966765)
This post comes off as you being critical of Bryan. You are questioning him on telling the coach something. He said he is not talking to the coach. He is/was the first one in the thread to say, in response to a comment, that he wont talk to the coach. Read back a few posts and you will see that..

Actually I was not criticism him about anything. I just stated we do not need to have much discussion with a coach after we make a call and quoted his comments to make that point. If that is a criticism of him personally, then either he is going to have to get thicker skin or get over it. I was making a comment that I felt was relevant to my position about this topic. I do not know Bryan personally enough to know his overall position or to know how strong he feels about this topic.

Oh and I read the situation the first time, it sounds like some people need to not take every comment so personally. People disagree with me here often about things, it is not that big of a deal when they do.

Peace

JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 08:45am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 966767)
I didn't say you brought up the "huge discussion" thing. I was pointing out how my original post was being twisted.

Anyway... I agree. And looking at my replies I think that's apparent.

Is this on "Ohio thing?" ;)

I did not suggest you said I said anything. I was just commenting on the thread and using words that were used previously.

Peace

BryanV21 Thu Sep 17, 2015 08:53am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966784)
Is this on "Ohio thing?" ;)

I did not suggest you said I said anything. I was just commenting on the thread and using words that were used previously.

Peace

Ah. Responding to me made it seem like you were accusing me.

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OKREF Thu Sep 17, 2015 09:27am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 966761)
Are they instructing you to ignore the contact?

No, as of right now, call the violation, if there is contact call the foul. This may change, but for now this is it.

JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:35am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 966785)
Ah. Responding to me made it seem like you were accusing me.

Accuse you of what? :eek:

Peace

BryanV21 Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:04am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966790)
Accuse you of what? :eek:

Peace

Talking to coaches when it's not necessary.

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JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:33am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 966791)
Talking to coaches when it's not necessary.

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That is an accusation? Or is that just a statement of what I feel you (not you personally BTW) should not do?

Peace

BryanV21 Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:36am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966794)
That is an accusation? Or is that just a statement of what I feel you (not you personally BTW) should not do?

Peace

OK... Accusation is a strong word. Yes, just saying I shouldn't talk to them.

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JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:57am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 966795)
OK... Accusation is a strong word. Yes, just saying I shouldn't talk to them.

Again it was a philosophy related to this and other things we call, I do not recall that it was just about you. There are a lot of officials that feel they have to justify or explain to coaches what they call and if a coach is not on board with the call that explanation is something required. I just do not go along with that position. Now if that is not your position, then not sure why you would care what I had to say if that is not your position.

You sound a little sensitive on this honestly. This was really not about you but the thought process that has been suggested hear by many for years.

Peace

BryanV21 Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966798)
Again it was a philosophy related to this and other things we call, I do not recall that it was just about you. There are a lot of officials that feel they have to justify or explain to coaches what they call and if a coach is not on board with the call that explanation is something required. I just do not go along with that position. Now if that is not your position, then not sure why you would care what I had to say if that is not your position.

You sound a little sensitive on this honestly. This was really not about you but the thought process that has been suggested hear by many for years.

Peace

I thought it was about me because you quoted me.

For the record, I don't like talking to coaches, so I only do it if I have to.

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JRutledge Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 966799)
I thought it was about me because you quoted me.

For the record, I don't like talking to coaches, so I only do it if I have to.

Quoting someone does not mean the comments or responses are just about you. Your comments were about the topic. Again, you really need to not be so sensitive. And did I misquote you? These were your words. If you did not want anyone to say anything about them, then why did you say them?

Peace

OKREF Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:41pm

I didn't know my post was going to cause all of this. I wasn't saying I explain every call to a coach, and on this topic what I was really meaning to say was if the coach asked me about it, then I would talk to him/her. I'm not explaining to just be doing it.

BryanV21 Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:52pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 966807)
Quoting someone does not mean the comments or responses are just about you. Your comments were about the topic. Again, you really need to not be so sensitive. And did I misquote you? These were your words. If you did not want anyone to say anything about them, then why did you say them?

Peace

I've been going to message boards for as long as the internet was a thing. You only quote somebody if you are referring to them. Otherwise, find the person you want to refer to and quote them, or there's a button for a general reply below.

I'm not sensitive, I'm confused as to why you replied to me when you were apparently talking about someone else.

Misquote? No. I didn't say I was talking to coaches. I said what I WOULDN'T say to a coach and it was twisted.

With that said, I appreciate your advice on this board. Thank you.


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