Batter's Out By Rule or

[Rich Ives]

Coach wants to get to the next inning.

The counter move is for the defense to immediately (before you put the ball back in play and/or throwing the pitch) call time for a conference - thus going past the (illegal) time limit. You can change pitchers every batter. Send in a defensive sub after every pitch. All valid moves. Part of the game.

Gonna forfeit the other way for those moves?

Let the teams play out their tactics. Time limits ( or impending darkness, bad weather approaching, impending curfew, etc.) create stalling or hurry-up actions. Been going on ever since the game was first played. Don't insert yourself unless it gets really obnoxious.

Did I mention that time limits aren't legal in most cases? Why not refuse to observe that rule?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Gonna forfeit the other way for those moves?

No. Gonna warn, the very first time I hear it, preferably before I see it. In 22 years, I've NEVER had the warning go unheeded.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

No. Gonna warn, the very first time I hear it, preferably before I see it. In 22 years, I've NEVER had the warning go unheeded.

You're going to warn them for making a legal move? You'll lose that one at the protest committee.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You're going to warn them for making a legal move? You'll lose that one at the protest committee.

Seriously?

Exactly what is there to protest? I inform coach of the rule - that's it. Nothing remotely protestable in this situation.

And if you don't think the situation in the OP is EXACTLY what this rule is meant for - when WOULD you think that rule would apply?

[REFANDUMP]

Call time, brush the plate and then the pitchers mound if necessary. If time hasn't run out, brush the plate again. Problem solved

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Seriously?

Exactly what is there to protest? I inform coach of the rule - that's it. Nothing remotely protestable in this situation.

And if you don't think the situation in the OP is EXACTLY what this rule is meant for - when WOULD you think that rule would apply?

You refused to allow a pitching change or a sub or some other legal move. Explain that to the committee.

Stalling and stretching were fairly common in MLB before they changed the end of game rules. It still happens when bad weather is approaching and the game isn't official yet. Team gaining the advantage makes some moves. NO ONE CARES because they want to be able to do the same thing.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You refused to allow a pitching change or a sub or some other legal move. Explain that to the committee.

Stalling and stretching were fairly common in MLB before they changed the end of game rules. It still happens when bad weather is approaching and the game isn't official yet. Team gaining the advantage makes some moves. NO ONE CARES because they want to be able to do the same thing.

You're wrong, Rich. This becomes a judgement issue. If I feel that any action is intended to delay or shorten the game, it becomes illegal. Been to the protest committee on this one and it was denied.

[DG]

Time limit games are rec league rules and good.

Protest committees for time limit games should rule on the intent of the time limit rule, thus intentionally doing something intentional to get an out by rule to prolong the game such as this situation should not be allowed.

Changing pitchers to extend the time in order to get a win is just bush.

Telling the batter to do something illegal to extend the game with one minute left should not be allowed in a time limit game.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Matt

You're wrong, Rich. This becomes a judgement issue. If I feel that any action is intended to delay or shorten the game, it becomes illegal. Been to the protest committee on this one and it was denied.

They were idiots.

And I'm not the only one here suggesting that you let the teams play out the tactics.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You refused to allow a pitching change or a sub or some other legal move. Explain that to the committee.

I did? When did I do that?

What the offense (I promise, the offense was not trying to do a pitching change)... did is EXACTLY what this rule is intended to prevent.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I did? When did I do that?

What the offense (I promise, the offense was not trying to do a pitching change)... did is EXACTLY what this rule is intended to prevent.

In post #2 you said:

In practice, you might opt to not see this action, and then remind coach that tactics designed to consume time or extend the game (i.e. monkey with the clock) are immediate grounds for forfeit - no warning.

Changing a pitcher is a legal move. Who are you to decide I can't do it?