"Batted Ball" defined?

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Seriously?

A pitch that has contacted the bat.

This would be my definition as well (provided the ball is still live at time of contact).

Originally Posted by jicecone

Not trying to be a smart a** however, of the definitions you have now read, which one don't you understand.

I understand the rule very well and agree with both of you gentlemen. However, in researching a previously posted question (regarding a foul tip in which the batter made no effort to swing) I could not find a definition of "batted ball" which would have definitively settled the matter. (although the rules sited by jicecone should be enough for any rational person.)
In one of Carl Childress's books the encouraged umpires to read and memorize the rules in order to prevent controversy , which I try to do. I was just looking for the most expedient way to end the discussion should it come up in a game. I can envision an idiot coach saying "It doesn't matter if the ball went sharply and directly into the catchers mitt. My player did not intend to swing therefore the ball was not a batted ball."
I wanted to have a rule memorized to stop such lunacy.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

This would be my definition as well (provided the ball is still live at time of contact).



I understand the rule very well and agree with both of you gentlemen. However, in researching a previously posted question (regarding a foul tip in which the batter made no effort to swing) I could not find a definition of "batted ball" which would have definitively settled the matter. (although the rules sited by jicecone should be enough for any rational person.)
In one of Carl Childress's books the encouraged umpires to read and memorize the rules in order to prevent controversy , which I try to do. I was just looking for the most expedient way to end the discussion should it come up in a game. I can envision an idiot coach saying "It doesn't matter if the ball went sharply and directly into the catchers mitt. My player did not intend to swing therefore the ball was not a batted ball."
I wanted to have a rule memorized to stop such lunacy.

You will never rid the game of lunacy. Just keep learning the rules.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

This would be my definition as well (provided the ball is still live at time of contact).



I understand the rule very well and agree with both of you gentlemen. However, in researching a previously posted question (regarding a foul tip in which the batter made no effort to swing) I could not find a definition of "batted ball" which would have definitively settled the matter. (although the rules sited by jicecone should be enough for any rational person.)
In one of Carl Childress's books the encouraged umpires to read and memorize the rules in order to prevent controversy , which I try to do. I was just looking for the most expedient way to end the discussion should it come up in a game. I can envision an idiot coach saying "It doesn't matter if the ball went sharply and directly into the catchers mitt. My player did not intend to swing therefore the ball was not a batted ball."
I wanted to have a rule memorized to stop such lunacy.

Everyone knows that if the batter ducks, makes no attempt to swing, and the pitch hits the bat it's a batted ball. Use that.

[rbmartin]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Everyone knows that if the batter ducks, makes no attempt to swing, and the pitch hits the bat it's a batted ball. Use that.

I'd just prefer to see it in writing. That's all.
"Everyone knows that..." can be the prelude to a lot of incorrect statements.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

I'd just prefer to see it in writing. That's all.
"Everyone knows that..." can be the prelude to a lot of incorrect statements.

Not everything is written down. It's actually a good thing.

[etn_ump]

Like johnny08 said, everything's not written down.

The location of the restroom probably isn't written down, but I bet you could find it.

[jTheUmp]

"I don't understand. How did you know where the mess hall was if it's not in this book?"
"Well, I guess I just followed the crowd at chow time, sir."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgIBG8q1Gjc

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

"I don't understand. How did you know where the mess hall was if it's not in this book?"
"Well, I guess I just followed the crowd at chow time, sir."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgIBG8q1Gjc

It takes a few good men.

[voiceoflg]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

I'd just prefer to see it in writing. That's all.
"Everyone knows that..." can be the prelude to a lot of incorrect statements.

Indeed. I have heard "everyone knows the hands are part of the bat" numerous times. It doesn't make it so.