Visits to pitcher, playing pro rules

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

All I can find in a quick look is J/R:

It is a trip when the manager:

(e) substitutes a pitcher without a conference.

Wendlestedt says a pitcher changed to another position by a manager from the dugout is not a trip, but there is no mention about situation where manager goes to PU to make the change without visiting the mound, but since he is not in the dugout when he goes to PU to make a change, I consider that a trip for purposes of the 2 trip rule.

It has never come up in any game I have been in, so is interesting situation, but I think coming out of the dugout twice in same inning to conference or change is 2 trips.