Balk calls from "B" position

[rbmartin]

High School ball. When I am at B position (with right handed pitcher) I am primarily looking for balks related to the feet and shoulders. My question is, since I do net possess X-ray vision to see the hands, should I totally defer to HP for "no-pause" balks or am I free to call one if it is really egregious?

[dash_riprock]

See a balk - call a balk.

[UMP45]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

High School ball. When I am at B position (with right handed pitcher) I am primarily looking for balks related to the feet and shoulders. My question is, since I do net possess X-ray vision to see the hands, should I totally defer to HP for "no-pause" balks or am I free to call one if it is really egregious?

This goes with the "you can't call a check swing from the middle" BS!

[JRutledge]

I do not understand how you could not see a balk on the "pause" with most pitchers in the B position. If you see it, call it.

Peace

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

High School ball. When I am at B position (with right handed pitcher) I am primarily looking for balks related to the feet and shoulders. My question is, since I do net possess X-ray vision to see the hands, should I totally defer to HP for "no-pause" balks or am I free to call one if it is really egregious?

About the only thing you can't clearly, see is separation of the hands before stepping off. Otherwise, you can certainly see the body come to a "complete and discernible stop".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

I am primarily looking for balks related to the feet and shoulders.

Stop that. Just look for legal movements. Period.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Stop that. Just look for legal movements. Period.

I also agree w/ this.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

High School ball. When I am at B position (with right handed pitcher) I am primarily looking for balks related to the feet and shoulders. My question is, since I do net possess X-ray vision to see the hands, should I totally defer to HP for "no-pause" balks or am I free to call one if it is really egregious?

See a balk, call a balk.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by rbmartin

am I free to call one if it is really egregious?

Not in my game. All I want you to do is see whether F1 disengages the rubber before feinting to first, and MAYBE a slight flinch of the pivot leg.

[MD Longhorn]

Scratching CT1 as my potential partner on Arbiter...

[CT1]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Scratching CT1 as my potential partner on Arbiter...

For all you know, we may have already worked together. I've done some games in Texas.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

For all you know, we may have already worked together. I've done some games in Texas.

If you told me not to call balks from the B position, I'd have remembered you. Seeing as how the responses to you were unanimous, I'm hoping you change your opinion on the matter.

[bob jenkins]

It was some old-school thiniking that had "BU watches the feet, PU watches the hands" (or maybe it was the other way arond -- I forget).

Most organizations have gone away from that. And, it's true that some are more easily seen from one position or another, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't get it if you see it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CT1

Not in my game. All I want you to do is see whether F1 disengages the rubber before feinting to first, and MAYBE a slight flinch of the pivot leg.

Right. You wouldn't like working with me or all of my regular HS/college partners, then.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Right. You wouldn't like working with me or all of my regular HS/college partners, then.

That attitude is the reason I was probably more frustrated in baseball with partners than any other sport. Too many of these "macho" rules people apply. The BU has nothing else really going on but watching the pitcher. And why in the pros you see someone other than the BU call a balk.

Peace