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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 12:12am
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So, how many times are we umpires going to have to explain rule 7.06 to people over the next few days?
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:04am
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Great call by Jim Joyce.

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Come on, you've got to let the players decide the game...plus you can't call that in the WORLD SERIES!
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:35am
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Amazing game, amazing call, amazing ending!

Joe Torre, Jim Joyce, John Hirschbeck, and Dana Demuth on the call.

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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 02:07am
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Have to say, from a spectator's perspective, I was most impressed with how calmly and authoritatively the two umpires handled this. A model of professionalism.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:41am
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I was most impressed with how calmly and authoritatively the two umpires handled this. A model of professionalism.
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It seemed like a textbook call, but Joyce and Dumuth sold it immediately. They left no room for doubt and did a good job of defusing a potential mess. Great work.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:17am
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It seemed like a textbook call...
No, it WAS a textbook call.

No doubt about it, no matter how many people complain that Middlebrooks couldn't do anything about it. I had to laugh with someone (might've been Salty) who thought Craig went out of the baseline when he got up and started for home. Make a good throw, Salty, and none of this would've taken place.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:20am
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I'm not disputing the obstruction call except if you watch, the base runner never touched the plate. Nevertheless he was called safe, which of course is the correct call until the missed base is appealed by the defense.

Realistically, how does the defense appeal such a play (final play of the game) when the umpires leave the field so quickly?
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Amazing game, amazing call, amazing ending!

Joe Torre, Jim Joyce, John Hirschbeck, and Dana Demuth on the call.

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gotta love how Torre literally pulled out the book to demonstrate...
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:15am
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I'm not disputing the obstruction call except if you watch, the base runner never touched the plate. Nevertheless he was called safe, which of course is the correct call until the missed base is appealed by the defense.

Realistically, how does the defense appeal such a play (final play of the game) when the umpires leave the field so quickly?
The next baseball game at any level I officiate will be my first. But I assume this would be like the McCann-Gomez brouhaha in Atlanta. McCann obstructed, Gomez was awarded home but never touched the plate. Run scored anyway.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:17am
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Unfortunately, that's going to become more and more common. Soon, we'll have to have an odd number of umpires on every game and we'll all vote on every play.
One is an odd number.

I'm perfectly fine with that. (For kids' games.)
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:33am
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AG and others....

If last night's play was obstruction during the regular season, then it was obstruction in the World Series. Great call by Jim Joyce and great communication between DeMuth and Joyce on the enforcement of the play.

Playoffs or no playoffs....we are paid to do a job and this umpiring crew has definitely being doing their job.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:01am
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Come on, you've got to let the players decide the game...plus you can't call that in the WORLD SERIES!
No, players don't decide the game when the rules are violated. You make that call whenever it happens. It doesn't matter if it's the world series or not. The rule was violated, and there you are.
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:26am
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Two burning questions:

a) Shouldn't Demuth have called "time" as soon as the tag was applied, then given the award?

b) what if Craig stays at third? Any award?
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:34am
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Old Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:47am
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Two burning questions:

a) Shouldn't Demuth have called "time" as soon as the tag was applied, then given the award?

b) what if Craig stays at third? Any award?

a) I think that if a play is being made on the obstructed runner then the umpire calling the obstruction (Jim Joyce) should kill the play and make the award.

b) I think that the contact only happened after he made a move towards home so I say OBS regardless, even if he turned around and returned to third IF in the judgement of Joyce the reason he didn't advance was due to the OBS.
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