Game Fee High School Level

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Mid Hudson Valley NY here, and am a softball ump - but we are all VERY aware of the baseball fees, as we will be getting parity with them in a year or two.

New York has three levels: Varsity, JV, and what they call 'modified' - i.e., middle school. Here are both sports current fees Baseball is 100/75/65, and Softball is 98/74/65 By 2014-2015, both will be 102/77/67 For this coming spring's games, JV got a $2 bump this year, will another $1 next year, then another $2 for 2014-2015

This is all with no assignors fee - the schedule is made by, and we get paid through a local educational co-op here called BOCES . That office administers all sports in our area, and they are VERY fair about making sure you get paid right. The only pain is that we have to fill a monthly voucher out, and have to wait for them to process it. And - of course - receive a 1099 in January!

personally, I work about 25 JV softball and about 4 or 5 modified softball games a season, so I do pretty well...

[Publius]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Mid Hudson Valley NY here, and am a softball ump - but we are all VERY aware of the baseball fees, as we will be getting parity with them in a year or two.

New York has three levels: Varsity, JV, and what they call 'modified' - i.e., middle school. Here are both sports current fees Baseball is 100/75/65, and Softball is 98/74/65 By 2014-2015, both will be 102/77/67 For this coming spring's games, JV got a $2 bump this year, will another $1 next year, then another $2 for 2014-2015

This is all with no assignors fee - the schedule is made by, and we get paid through a local educational co-op here called BOCES . That office administers all sports in our area, and they are VERY fair about making sure you get paid right. The only pain is that we have to fill a monthly voucher out, and have to wait for them to process it. And - of course - receive a 1099 in January!

personally, I work about 25 JV softball and about 4 or 5 modified softball games a season, so I do pretty well...

Softball doesn't deserve parity with baseball. This isn't like basketball or soccer where the boys and girls play the same game, sexually segregated. Baseball and softball are different sports.

Softball is almost always far easier to officiate, and typically takes a lot less time. Around here, you can put twenty baseball umpires and twenty softball umpires in a line-up and be able to tell, with 80%-90% accuracy, who works which sport based solely on physical appearance.

And why do so many officials so object to receiving a 1099? (That's a rhetorical question.) It's ironic that so many members working in a profession in which integrity is integral to performance are dedicated off the court and field to cheating on their taxes.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by Publius

Softball doesn't deserve parity with baseball. This isn't like basketball or soccer where the boys and girls play the same game, sexually segregated. Baseball and softball are different sports.

They aren't THAT different - both require the same skills set, the same kinds of judgement needed. The only difference are different rules and mechanics. I assist in our new candidates clinic, and the main problem we have with experienced baseball umpires is them having to learn SOFTBALL rules and mechanics - they already have the judgement skills someone totally knew lacks.

Softball is almost always far easier to officiate, and typically takes a lot less time. Around here, you can put twenty baseball umpires and twenty softball umpires in a line-up and be able to tell, with 80%-90% accuracy, who works which sport based solely on physical appearance.

Thats total BS - typical baseball arrogance. Softball is a FASTER game operationally. And our mechanics require a hell of a lot more hustle from the umpire. Our BUs don't have the luxury of standing in the middle of the infield with runners on, so we have to HUSTLE to call infield plays. So yeah, you can tell the difference between baseball only umps and softball only umps.

One more thing, and this is the point we have been trying to make for YEARS - our EXPENSES are exactly the same - Gerry Davis does NOT give a 'softball discount' on our gear. Nor is there a softball discount on gas.

And why do so many officials so object to receiving a 1099? (That's a rhetorical question.) It's ironic that so many members working in a profession in which integrity is integral to performance are dedicated off the court and field to cheating on their taxes I totally agree with you there....

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

They aren't THAT different - both require the same skills set, the same kinds of judgement needed. The only difference are different rules and mechanics. I assist in our new candidates clinic, and the main problem we have with experienced baseball umpires is them having to learn SOFTBALL rules and mechanics - they already have the judgement skills someone totally knew lacks.

Softball is almost always far easier to officiate, and typically takes a lot less time. Around here, you can put twenty baseball umpires and twenty softball umpires in a line-up and be able to tell, with 80%-90% accuracy, who works which sport based solely on physical appearance.

Thats total BS - typical baseball arrogance. Softball is a FASTER game operationally. And our mechanics require a hell of a lot more hustle from the umpire. Our BUs don't have the luxury of standing in the middle of the infield with runners on, so we have to HUSTLE to call infield plays. So yeah, you can tell the difference between baseball only umps and softball only umps.

One more thing, and this is the point we have been trying to make for YEARS - our EXPENSES are exactly the same - Gerry Davis does NOT give a 'softball discount' on our gear. Nor is there a softball discount on gas.

And why do so many officials so object to receiving a 1099? (That's a rhetorical question.) It's ironic that so many members working in a profession in which integrity is integral to performance are dedicated off the court and field to cheating on their taxes I totally agree with you there....

Softball games are 1/2 as long as baseball games.

Lower level baseball games require the same equipment as major league umpires.

The diamond on a softball field is way smaller than a baseball field.

There are lots of differences, mainly the time portion. I guess I don't see how softball should have the same fee as baseball.