"Selling" Safe Call on Missed Bag during DP

[REFANDUMP]

I have a couple of questions regarding this type of play.

1) Why do we need to allow a "neighborhood" type double play under any rulesets that have slide rules ?? The middle infielders have plenty of options to avoid incoming baserunners. I allow some leeway under OBR, if a fielder is protecting himself.


2) If this fielder missed the base by as much as claimed here, how do you sell your call to the head coach, who is probably standing in the 3rd base coaching box 100 feet away with a clear view of the play ?? Especially when you're probably 10 to 15 feet away from it. Why be there if you're not going to call something so obvious to everyone in the stadium ??

In my opinion, you handled this play correctly. I probably would have called "Safe, no bag" and signaled multiple times like you did.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

Why do we need to allow a "neighborhood" type double play under any rulesets that have slide rules ??

We don't.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

2) If this fielder missed the base by as much as claimed here, how do you sell your call to the head coach, who is probably standing in the 3rd base coaching box 100 feet away with a clear view of the play ??

Ummm, why would you need to sell a Safe call on a runner to the third base coach?

[REFANDUMP]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Ummm, why would you need to sell a Safe call on a runner to the third base coach?

Did you miss the part about it potentially being the HEAD COACH !!!

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by REFANDUMP

Did you miss the part about it potentially being the HEAD COACH !!!

I think the question is ... why do we need to sell the call to a guy you just said had a very clear view of the play? And why would the 3BC need to be sold that his runner was SAFE... he's certainly not going to complain about it.

[REFANDUMP]

I obviously have confused some people here. I'm addressing those who think an "out" call is the correct call on these types of plays. You have to sell that "out" call to the head coach who had a clear view of the play.

[PeteBooth]

Says Who

Also, don't you know by now all coaches think they have a clear view of the play.

Pete Booth

[EsqUmp]

The only thing that I would add/modify is this: when justifying a call that may be contrary to what some people think is going to be the call, justify it first, then signal safe. In other words, "Off the base, safe" or "Pulled foot, safe."