Am I too thin skinned?

[Robmoz]

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

To each his own, but I do want to ask ... the OP said "that's enough" when AC said "get a clue" to HIS PARTNER.

Would you eject, warn, or do nothing had you been in his shoes and that was said to your partner?

[w_sohl]

He was the assistant.

Had the complaint been only about the call, I would have done/said nothing. When he implied that my partner was clueless, that was what I had a problem with. My partner was dealing with happenings around the plate and was focused there so was not aware of the AC. I was in the C, probably between the C and B to be exact, so I heard it. I felt he was trying to show me up when he assumed the stance. I wouldn't accept that behavior from my 5 year old daughter, so I figured that I shouldn't accept it from an adult.

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

He was the assistant.

Had the complaint been only about the call, I would have done/said nothing. When he implied that my partner was clueless, that was what I had a problem with. My partner was dealing with happenings around the plate and was focused there so was not aware of the AC. I was in the C, probably between the C and B to be exact, so I heard it. I felt he was trying to show me up when he assumed the stance. I wouldn't accept that behavior from my 5 year old daughter, so I figured that I shouldn't accept it from an adult.

Put the rabbit ears away and don't expect the behavior of adults and juveniles to be comparable or handled in the same way.

In this scenario ignore the coach, let him vent and move on. "Get a clue" means Mr. Umpire, you did something I didn't like and don't understand and I don't know how to process it so I'm going to insult you.

Chances are the only one who is still thinking about this call and this scenario is you.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

Put the rabbit ears away and don't expect the behavior of adults and juveniles to be comparable or handled in the same way.

Another incorrect use of the term "rabbit ears." Congratulations.

If I can hear a coach from my position, then he's going to have to deal with the consequences. Too many officials, these days, would rather ignore than deal with unsportsmanlike behavior.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

Originally Posted by Rich

Another incorrect use of the term "rabbit ears." Congratulations.

If I can hear a coach from my position, then he's going to have to deal with the consequences. Too many officials, these days, would rather ignore than deal with unsportsmanlike behavior.

Great Response

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by Rich

Another incorrect use of the term "rabbit ears." Congratulations.

If I can hear a coach from my position, then he's going to have to deal with the consequences. Too many officials, these days, would rather ignore than deal with unsportsmanlike behavior.

To me it's listening to things that don't require being listened to. I see it as reacting to something that does not require my attention.

I guess I should have said don't insert yourself in the situation, let them vent and get the heck out of there.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

Put the rabbit ears away

I agree with a lot of what you said ... but calling this rabbit ears is actually rather irritating. Coach is on the field for the express purpose of complaining to the umpire... he then utters something to the umpire. That's NOT rabbit ears. You might choose to ignore this sort of utterance ... and honestly I would too if it was the thing he just HAD to say before walking away. But reacting to something spoken directly to you by a coach that shouldn't be out there anyway is the opposite of "rabbit ears".

[RPatrino]

Personally, I expect coaches and players to have outbursts of excitement and frustration during a game. These can be at themselves or at the umpires or just at the play in general. In the original post, the assistant coach yelled "get a clue" presumably at the plate umpire. As the base umpire, moving from C to B or back to A, if I heard that, I would probably watch the coach closely and see where he was going with the rant. If he continued with more utterances, then definitely that would get him a "that's enough". If the coach is moving toward you and saying 'get a clue' then that is an ejection, pure and simple, but if he is staying in his box and not directing the statement to anyone in particular, then I would let him rant unless it became a tantrum.

I feel that restricting for crossing his arms and 'glaring' at you is taking it a bit far. Besides, I would never restrict an assistant anyway, that's reserved for the head coach. Assistants simply get the door.

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I would never restrict an assistant anyway, that's reserved for the head coach. Assistants simply get the door.

Perfect! 10+

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

I agree with a lot of what you said ... but calling this rabbit ears is actually rather irritating. Coach is on the field for the express purpose of complaining to the umpire... he then utters something to the umpire. That's NOT rabbit ears. You might choose to ignore this sort of utterance ... and honestly I would too if it was the thing he just HAD to say before walking away. But reacting to something spoken directly to you by a coach that shouldn't be out there anyway is the opposite of "rabbit ears".

I may have misunderstood the original location of the coach in question. I took it to be in the vicinity of the coaching box doing his coaching duties. I took the umpire to be in C or 100' or so away. From that distance I have the umpire listening to things that don't need to be listened to.

If the distance is a lot closer than that, yes, they are probably will hear the dissenting of the coach a lot clearer and not inserting themselves in a place they don't need to be.

I guess I've said far too much and should have stopped at just leave it alone and move on.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

He was the assistant.

That is all I needed to hear. He needs to go.

Peace

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

To each his own, but I do want to ask ... the OP said "that's enough" when AC said "get a clue" to HIS PARTNER.

Would you eject, warn, or do nothing had you been in his shoes and that was said to your partner?

right, the OP referenced his partner....I would have gone with the same warning to the AC being that his comment was directed to my partner though audible by me.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

Another incorrect use of the term "rabbit ears." Congratulations.

If I can hear a coach from my position, then he's going to have to deal with the consequences. Too many officials, these days, would rather ignore than deal with unsportsmanlike behavior.

Originally Posted by Rich

I agree with you 100%. I'm probably telling him to knock it off and not even looking at him after that.

The NFHS has made it quite clear what they expect from assistant coaches, too. I just don't get why we would, based on all that, let them run over us. And then accuse an umpire of having "rabbit ears" when he addresses the behavior.

+1 on both.

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

I have nothing but an excited utterance. Are you going restrict every coach who yells come on blue, call it both ways?

Stuff like this hasn't bothered me in years, why make a scene out of nothing. The umpire who does anything with this looks like the aggressor.

Smile and play ball and don't take everything so seriously.