Am I too thin skinned?

[w_sohl]

Varsity game, I'm on the bases in the C. Play at the plate and my partner rules out. There is some disagreement with his call and after some complaining the first base coach chimes in with "Get a clue!" to my partner. I tell him "that's enough" and watch to check for understanding. He takes a step in my direction (I'm still in C) and crosses his arms at me as if to say what are you gonna do about it. I restrict him to the bench.

Was I too thin skinned? I felt, and still do, that I did the right thing. I wouldn't let my child do that to me without consequence so why woud I let an adult? If it were basketball I would have T him up.

[bob jenkins]

If that's all that happened then I wouldn't have restricted.

[RadioBlue]

Unless the first base coach is also the HC, I don't have a huge problem with what you did there. Would I have restricted him? Based on your description, possibly not, but I wasn't there and don't know if there were other issues that led up to this. That level of disrespect from an AC probably needs to be dealt with. You have him baseball's equivalent of a "T". The answer to your question can often be answered by a different question, "Did the game get better after the restriction?" If it did, then it was probably the right move. If things got worse, then perhaps you should've tried a different approach.

[Moosie74]

I have nothing. There's nothing to address here and I certainly wouldn't give a technical in basketball for this offense either.

The reaction of "get a clue" is simply an excited utterance out of frustration, it really is not directed at any one person.

Originally Posted by w_sohl

Varsity game, I'm on the bases in the C. Play at the plate and my partner rules out. There is some disagreement with his call and after some complaining the first base coach chimes in with "Get a clue!" to my partner. I tell him "that's enough" and watch to check for understanding. He takes a step in my direction (I'm still in C) and crosses his arms at me as if to say what are you gonna do about it. I restrict him to the bench.

Was I too thin skinned? I felt, and still do, that I did the right thing. I wouldn't let my child do that to me without consequence so why woud I let an adult? If it were basketball I would have T him up.

[jicecone]

First of all, this is not Basketball. I don't officiate it so can't do any comparison.

He openly challanged your authority after you gave him a warning and that was justification enough to restrict him to the bench. Some times you just have to umpire. Good work.

[MD Longhorn]

Honestly, on "get a clue", I likely do nothing assuming there's not more preamble to this story.

On the "what are you going to do about it" stance ... I think you did exactly right.

[Robmoz]

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

To each his own, but I do want to ask ... the OP said "that's enough" when AC said "get a clue" to HIS PARTNER.

Would you eject, warn, or do nothing had you been in his shoes and that was said to your partner?

[Moosie74]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

You guys "got nothing", seriously? I would have definitely sent him packin. For an AC to imply that I am clueless with an explicit "Get a clue" then he gets a free pass to the dugout. Comment on the action involved in the call, fine but don't come with some BS comment that is personal. You want respect, then earn it....I know I do.

I have nothing but an excited utterance. Are you going restrict every coach who yells come on blue, call it both ways?

Stuff like this hasn't bothered me in years, why make a scene out of nothing. The umpire who does anything with this looks like the aggressor.

Smile and play ball and don't take everything so seriously.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

I have nothing. There's nothing to address here and I certainly wouldn't give a technical in basketball for this offense either.

The reaction of "get a clue" is simply an excited utterance out of frustration, it really is not directed at any one person.

In basketball, an AC saying this will result in at least a quick warning to the HC. Continued idiocy would be an easy T. Most likely, though, I'm skipping the warning.

That's basketball, though.

[JJ]

".... but if he is staying in his box and not directing the statement to anyone in particular..."
This comment was clearly directed at the umpiring crew, and would need to be addressed on every level I've ever worked (currently working D1). Might not have to be an ejection, but the comment would be acknowledged and the commentator shut down. Small fires lead to big flare-ups.

JJ

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by JJ

".... but if he is staying in his box and not directing the statement to anyone in particular..."
This comment was clearly directed at the umpiring crew, and would need to be addressed on every level I've ever worked (currently working D1). Might not have to be an ejection, but the comment would be acknowledged and the commentator shut down. Small fires lead to big flare-ups.

JJ

umpiring crew

Translation: I got your back and you got mine.

[w_sohl]

Originally Posted by jicecone

umpiring crew

Translation: I got your back and you got mine.

This is what I was thinking when I addressed it.