Pulled foot mechanic and timing

[Warren Willson]

Originally posted by Jim Porter
I didn't delete my post. The admin of this site did. If you have a problem with that, take it up with him, or take it up with the person who complained.

I didn't say YOU deleted the post; only that it was now deleted.

Originally posted by Jim Porter
However, needling people over something so inocuous as creator of the longest thread, versus questioning someone's mental stability, aren't even in the same league. You vehemently defend one side, but remain silent about the other.

On the contrary, the record clearly shows that I sprang immediately to the offensive and requested Peter to stop baiting you with cracks about your mental stability. Look it up!

Originally posted by Jim Porter
Anyone who thinks I deserve to have my mental stability questioned considering what I've been through in my life, versus needling a couple of former adversaries about who holds title to creator of the longest thread, are sadly misguided in life. You seem outraged about one, but not the other. I'd call you a fair weather friend, and I'd probably be right.

No-one has said you "deserved" such a personal criticism. I have been your friend in both "fair" and "foul" weather. Ask Carl Childress how many times I begged that your behaviour be excused on account of your illness. I have NOT taken sides, but even if I had then on balance it would be YOUR side that I have taken!

Originally posted by Jim Porter
You talk about how much better this forum has become. Well, maybe it's better for you because the comments are no longer directed Down Under.

I suggest you enter the real world here, Jim. Simply ease your way through the top 5 or 6 threads and count the number of koala's! Even you cannot fail to note the extent of the personal criticism directed toward me by certain posters. You have let your emotions color your judgement about me, too.

Originally posted by Jim Porter
Garth continues to hold his grudge against me, and has continued to make references to me being a "liar" and how he'll never read another post of mine (a lie, actually, because he does read them and complain about them to the admin of this site.)

I will not prolong your argument with Garth any further. I will not fall prey to the "he started it - no he didn't" mentality. I simply requested an end to the resurrection of an old feud that most of us could care less about.

Originally posted by Jim Porter
So, I see how you are Warren. As long as the comments aren't directed at you, the tone of this board has improved. Who cares about the newcomers to this board, or to some of the others who haven't been around for years, or even me? You're happy as long as it isn't about you. If you claim that you didn't notice, then you're blind to it.

Now, I'm not going away. I plan to take on a more active role on this forum. You better learn to deal with me, or go away again. I frankly don't care what you do.

I have already established that I DID take the risk and request Peter NOT to bait you with cracks about your mental stability. For crying out loud, Jim, you even replied saying you wouldn't LET yourself be baited in such a way any longer. So WHAT, may I ask, is this "unbalanced" response all about?

I'm sorry that you cannot accept a gentle correction of the facts and a request not to prolong the "agony" of a public resurrection of old bickering and personal criticism. READ MY POST AGAIN and maybe you will see that is all it really was! Both you and Garth have been my "friends" for quite some time. I will NOT be made to choose sides. If you intend to continue in the same vein, be prepared to have the BFair "Sleeping Koala" Award renamed in your honor.

Cheers

[Jim Porter]

Originally posted by Warren Willson
So WHAT, may I ask, is this "unbalanced" response all about?

You know, it's how you read me. I participate on so many message boards. Our largest newspaper has a message forum for discussion of some very heated topics, and I am a regular there. I participate in e-mail groups about everything from birds to outdoor activities to hiking. I take part in communities making modifications to video games, and our discussion can get a bit strained on the off-topic boards.

But nowhere else in my browsing life have I ever been called mentally imbalanced after making a post. I'm not swearing at you, I'm not using caps, I didn't even use a single exclamation point, and still you see something in my post that leads to all yelling, or anger, or insanity. It's your problem, not mine. If you see something unbalanced in my posts, get your translator fixed. Nowhere else in life do I get those kinds of reactions from anyone. I can only conclude that it has something to do with the general nature of baseball umpires. I've met some real losers who umpire amateur baseball. I suppose they're on the 'net, too. Losers who feel they have take shots at others to make their pathetic, miserable little lives have some meaning. People who step on others to make themselves look good. Step away, I'm a doormat.

[Edited by Jim Porter on Jul 26th, 2003 at 12:33 AM]

[Blaine Gallant]

Jim:

If there is something I have posted publicly that you would care to share with me and the rest I would like to see it.

Somehow you have brought my name into a discussion and accused me of kicking you when you were down. Being someone in the medical profession, I can assure you I would never make light of any medical issue -real or percived.

If I hated you so much, why would I continue to invite you into my football pool.

BTW, if anyone is interested in a great NFL pool, e-mail me. Its only $20 USD, or $28 for us Canucks! Send me an e-mail at [email protected] . The NFL season starts soon!

[Warren Willson]

Originally posted by Jim Porter

You know, it's how you read me.

Oh, really? Let's see:

1. You accused me of saying that you deleted your own post. I didn't.

2. You accused me of vehemently defending Peter and Garth. I didn't. I stated the facts without bias.

3. You accused me of remaining silent over the accusation that you were mentally imbalanced. I didn't. I was the first to demand that such accusations not be made.

4. You accused me of being outraged by the inaccuracies of your post. I wasn't. I just wanted the record set straight. Period.

5. You accused me of not being outraged by the accusations over your mental instability. You were wrong, else why would I risk Peter Osborne's wrath by demanding that he stop baiting you?

6. You accused me of being a fair weather friend. You have no idea how good a friend I have been.

7. You claimed I didn't have to face the negative comments that you faced. You probably don't bother reading BFair's posts, because you'd be way wrong there too.

8. You accused me of being totally self-absorbed. You're wrong again. If I were that self-interested I wouldn't have posted the request that Peter stop baiting you, and I wouldn't have posted my recent correction of your inaccurate summary of the longest post discussion between Peter and Garth. None of that debate directly involved me at all.

9. Now you accuse me of misreading your posts? On that count you are now 0 for 9 - and that's just about as bad a record as there has ever been in any single thread.

I'm tired of making allowances for you, Jim. I've been doing it for years and it has just worn way too thin. You say your cancer is in remission. That being the case there really is no excuse for your behaviour. You treat others every bit as badly as you lament that you have been treated, and yet you refuse to see that as anything but the other fellow's fault.

Congratulations on winning the Order of the SOK, 2nd class.



[Edited by Warren Willson on Jul 26th, 2003 at 06:36 AM]

[brian43]

give it up, you all lose. its the internet.

[PatF]

No, please don't stop now! I'm going for the record for the longest thread. Who would have thought it? A simple question about when and how to go for help from your partner has lead to charges of lying, mis-stating the truth, lying, misreading what was intended by the writer, lying, accusations of beastiality, lying ,charges of having no faith in your fellow man, (and did I mention?)...lying.

You guys are awesome!

[David B]

Originally posted by PatF
No, please don't stop now! I'm going for the record for the longest thread.

This is only added at PatF request to the length of the thread.

I know something was stated about the number of replies, but the # of views is quite large also.

lets see as of this post its 1876.

Thanks
David

[Johnnyweekends]

Originally posted by Jim Porter

I will not forget, however, how people like Garth and Ozzy and Blaine treated me during the toughest struggle of my life, and the things they said to me. I do forgive them, though. But I won't forget. [/B]

Last time I checked, forgiving also means forgetting as well. Since you readily admit you won't forget, I'm also assuming you are reloading your flamethrower.

[Jim Porter]

You accused me of saying that you deleted your own post.

No I didn't. I didn't make any mention of you at all. I merely stated, in the same fashion you state your "facts," that I didn't delete my own post. I also told you who you could complain to if you didn't like it.

You accused me of vehemently defending Peter and Garth. I stated the facts without bias.

I accused you of saying that you didn't want to prolong the thread and take sides, and then you prolonged the thread and took sides. You still are doing that, by the way. And your, "facts without bias," is entirely your opinion. You certainly didn't e-mail me personally to keep this off the boards, now did you? No, that would've been the act of a friend.

You accused me of remaining silent over the accusation that you were mentally imbalanced. I didn't. I was the first to demand that such accusations not be made.

Is that another one of your unbiased facts? The truth is, your only concern was that I not be baited, so as not to make this board an unpleasant experience for you. Poor you. You didn't say anything about what was said or defend me at all. Your only concern was that you were back on the boards and you didn't want a flame thread to occur. I'm supposed to be thankful for that? Don't make me puke. Then to turn around and try to make it seem like you were defending me? Pah-leez. With friends like you, who needs Osborne?

I'm tired of making allowances for you, Jim. I've been doing it for years and it has just worn way too thin. You say your cancer is in remission. That being the case there really is no excuse for your behaviour. You treat others every bit as badly as you lament that you have been treated, and yet you refuse to see that as anything but the other fellow's fault.

Please, stop making allowances for me. I don't treat people badly. I've never called anyone mentally unbalanced, and I've never made comments about what Aussies do with sheep. Now that's treating people badly. There's truth in the things I say, so it sometimes upsets people. Too bad.

There are many friends I have on the Internet umpiring boards with whom I have never had a problem. They tend not to be strong-headed and opinionated, because those are the people I knock heads with. Always have. Now, I'm a big boy. I don't have a problem. How about you fight your own battles for now on, and leave me alone?

[Edited by Jim Porter on Jul 26th, 2003 at 05:11 PM]

[Jim Porter]

Originally posted by Johnnyweekends
Last time I checked, forgiving also means forgetting as well.

Then you better check again. The dictionary you used had a defect.

[Blaine Gallant]

Jim:

I am still waiting for the slanderous statements I made toward you.

I really don't appreciate the insinuation. I am a prick on the field, but I don't get involved in this horse$hit.

Blaine

[Blaine Gallant]

Classy. Really classy.

Brad:

Get this idiot and smack him. We don't need that $hit on this board.

Blaine

[Warren Willson]

Originally posted by Jim Porter
The truth is, your only concern was that I not be baited, so as not to make this board an unpleasant experience for you. Poor you. You didn't say anything about what was said or defend me at all. Your only concern was that you were back on the boards and you didn't want a flame thread to occur. I'm supposed to be thankful for that? Don't make me puke. Then to turn around and try to make it seem like you were defending me? Pah-leez. With friends like you, who needs Osborne?

... as compared with ...

Originally posted by Jim Porter
Please, stop making allowances for me. I don't treat people badly. I've never called anyone mentally unbalanced, and I've never made comments about what Aussies do with sheep. Now that's treating people badly. There's truth in the things I say, so it sometimes upsets people. Too bad.

"The truth is", Jim, that you wouldn't KNOW the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the a$$. You probably won't see the absolute hypocrisy evidenced by these two statements from the same post. I'm sure others will. I'm done with you. As you said, "with friends like you..."

[jicecone]

brian43

Of all the insults, slanderess remarks, fabricated stories and outright garbage that has appeared in this thread, none of it, is as low as your reply.

If you are truly are an official, which I find hard to believe, you should be banned.

Don't ever come to Pittsburgh, to try an officiate.

[Jim Porter]

You probably won't see the absolute hypocrisy

I'll tell you what hypocrisy I do see. I see you doing the exact same thing as me - defending yourself, stating your side as you see it, and making snide little sarcastic remarks in the process. But for me, it's mental instability, or treating someone badly. For you, it's what?

The same thing goes for Benham and Osborne. They are two rather sarcastic people, they say fairly nasty things to people, they've been known to name-call and insult, yet they point at me like I'm some sort of pariah. You're all looking in a mirror, and it's not my fault you don't like what you see.