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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:37pm
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Roger Clemens pitches Saturday

For the Sugarland Skeeters.

Anyone know if this would move off his "retirement" such that it changes his 1st year of HOF eligibility?
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:39pm
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I saw that on the Skeeter's FB Page. Got to love indepedent baseball.
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:44pm
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Baseballhall.org says "Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball."

I'm pretty sure the Skeeters are not considered to be in the Major Leagues.
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:36pm
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Apparently they don't have a PED testing policy, either...
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Baseballhall.org says "Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball."

I'm pretty sure the Skeeters are not considered to be in the Major Leagues.
Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:17am
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Apparently they don't have a PED testing policy, either...
Is Geritol considered a PED these days?
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:17am
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But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year.
How sad. The Brett Favre of MLB.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:23am
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Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...
He would obviously be welcome to the team - they supported him throughout the entire legal process.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:38am
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Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:13am
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Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...
Clemens should be like Palmeiro. Innocent or guilty, he didn't whine. He told his story which is believeable considering the morals of Tejada. He lives locally where I do, and walks with his head held high. He has always been active in the local baseball community. He just simply tailored his swing to the home run porches in Texas and Baltimore. He wasn't blasting them over 400 ft. like the others.

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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:16am
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Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.
Lovely sentiment. They guy's 50, and he's no Jamie Moyer. Sad.
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Old Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:41am
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And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...
I think the Astros would do it in a heartbeat just for the ticket sales alone. And it seems to me that Selig can't do anything about it if he tried.

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Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.
I agree with this...if he wants to play and someone is willing to have him on their team, then good for him and he shouldn't stop playing unless it's on his terms or no one wants to take him anymore.
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Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.
Gimme a break. He hasn't thrown a pitch in professional ball at any level since the ALDS in 2007. If he really still wanted to play, he would've joined an independent league well before five years after his last appearance.

The timing of it all just doesn't give me the impression that he's doing this for love of the game. Sounds like it's more for love of Roger.
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Old Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:15pm
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The timing of it all just doesn't give me the impression that he's doing this for love of the game. Sounds like it's more for love of Roger.
Exactly. He is trying to get the public sentiment vote out. Plus in the end, Andy Pettite showed he lacked the balls to tell the truth also. Their whole case was against Brian McNamee's credibility.

I hope the liars get kept out of the HOF for many years to come.
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Old Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:47pm
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Gimme a break. He hasn't thrown a pitch in professional ball at any level since the ALDS in 2007. If he really still wanted to play, he would've joined an independent league well before five years after his last appearance.
This might be the dumbest thing I've read in weeks. You are aware that he's been a little busy these past 4 years?
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