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MD Longhorn Mon Aug 20, 2012 01:37pm

Roger Clemens pitches Saturday
 
For the Sugarland Skeeters.

Anyone know if this would move off his "retirement" such that it changes his 1st year of HOF eligibility?

Welpe Mon Aug 20, 2012 01:39pm

I saw that on the Skeeter's FB Page. Got to love indepedent baseball.

Altor Mon Aug 20, 2012 02:44pm

Baseballhall.org says "Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball."

I'm pretty sure the Skeeters are not considered to be in the Major Leagues.

Dakota Mon Aug 20, 2012 04:36pm

Apparently they don't have a PED testing policy, either... :)

Manny A Tue Aug 21, 2012 08:03am

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Originally Posted by Altor (Post 852171)
Baseballhall.org says "Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball."

I'm pretty sure the Skeeters are not considered to be in the Major Leagues.

Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...

Welpe Tue Aug 21, 2012 08:17am

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 852178)
Apparently they don't have a PED testing policy, either... :)

Is Geritol considered a PED these days?

mbyron Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:17am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852205)
But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year.

How sad. The Brett Favre of MLB.

MD Longhorn Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:23am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852205)
Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...

He would obviously be welcome to the team - they supported him throughout the entire legal process.

JugglingReferee Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:38am

Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.

Steven Tyler Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:13am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852205)
Obviously not. But there is speculation that Clemens is using this as a first step into getting back on the mound, perhaps with the Houston Astros, for a MLB game this year. That would push his HOF eligibility another five years down the road so that maybe, just maybe, sentiments on players suspected of using PEDs during their careers will have changed amongst sportswriters.

Can't blame him for trying. And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...

Clemens should be like Palmeiro. Innocent or guilty, he didn't whine. He told his story which is believeable considering the morals of Tejada. He lives locally where I do, and walks with his head held high. He has always been active in the local baseball community. He just simply tailored his swing to the home run porches in Texas and Baltimore. He wasn't blasting them over 400 ft. like the others.

The beauty about umpiring is getting to talk to the old scouts that pop up around from time to time. They know the real thing when they see it.

mbyron Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:16am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 852227)
Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.

Lovely sentiment. They guy's 50, and he's no Jamie Moyer. Sad.
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APG Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:41am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852205)
And as bad as the Astros are this year, they really have nothing to lose. The real question is whether or not they would welcome Clemens to the team if it's obvious why he wants to pitch again. And if they agree, I can already hear Bud Selig and company...

I think the Astros would do it in a heartbeat just for the ticket sales alone. And it seems to me that Selig can't do anything about it if he tried.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 852227)
Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.

I agree with this...if he wants to play and someone is willing to have him on their team, then good for him and he shouldn't stop playing unless it's on his terms or no one wants to take him anymore.

Manny A Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:13am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 852227)
Good for Clemens. If he still wants to play baseball, and he's useful to someone, let him do it. Life is a verb. Time doesn't go backwards. He might regret not trying.

Gimme a break. He hasn't thrown a pitch in professional ball at any level since the ALDS in 2007. If he really still wanted to play, he would've joined an independent league well before five years after his last appearance.

The timing of it all just doesn't give me the impression that he's doing this for love of the game. Sounds like it's more for love of Roger.

Steven Tyler Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:15pm

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852315)

The timing of it all just doesn't give me the impression that he's doing this for love of the game. Sounds like it's more for love of Roger.

Exactly. He is trying to get the public sentiment vote out. Plus in the end, Andy Pettite showed he lacked the balls to tell the truth also. Their whole case was against Brian McNamee's credibility.

I hope the liars get kept out of the HOF for many years to come.

MD Longhorn Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 852315)
Gimme a break. He hasn't thrown a pitch in professional ball at any level since the ALDS in 2007. If he really still wanted to play, he would've joined an independent league well before five years after his last appearance.

This might be the dumbest thing I've read in weeks. You are aware that he's been a little busy these past 4 years?


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