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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 841697)

I really enjoyed this thread...

Me too! I love it when somebody keeps arguing even when they've been proven wrong. Happens to the best of us sometimes.:p

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 841778)

That's the umpires job.

Steve:

What is the penalty for a quick pitch?

MTD, Sr.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 841780)

Me too! I love it when somebody keeps arguing even when they've been proven wrong. Happens to the best of us sometimes.:p

Prove where I'm wrong. It's right in the rule book.

I'm not arguing. I think the wording in the rule book contradicts itself to begin with anyway.

Steven Tyler: Read this post!

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 841642)

I am only addressing NFHS Baseball Rules.

Let us review the fundamentals.

1) When is F1 an Infielder and when is F1 a Pitcher? Answer: F1 is an IF when he is not in contact with the Pitcher's Plate, and he is a Pitcher when he is intentionally in contact with the Pitcher's Plate.

2) When are the Pitching Rules in Effect? Answer: When F1 is intentionally in contact with the PPLT.

Therefore, when F1 is an IF (meaning he is not intentionally in contact with the PPLT), he can take signs from any one, any where. When F1 is the P, he shall take or simulate taking his signs from F2 while in contact with the PPLT.

The purpose NFHS R6-S1-A1 is to insure that the P does not quick pitch.

MTD, Sr.

Steve:

I agree that the rule is not well written, but what I have written above is the correct ruling. A former member of the NFHS Baseball Rules Committee has told me so. The intent of the rule is to keep the Pitcher from just engaging the Pitcher's Plate and then immediately start his pitching motion.

MTD, Sr.

I understand except for the two goofs who were trying to stir things up.

I like this thread a lot

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 842031)

Love this thread. My favorite so far.:D

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 841647)

There is no penalty for taking signs off the rubber. I don't know what you are reading, but it is not any of the 3 baseball codes in existence today (OBR, NCAA, FED).

ozzy,

You might want to reread your NCAA rule book.

(I'm guessing Jim and Kyle had a bet who could get the dumbest rule into the book. Kyle probably thought he had a sure thing and Jim outfoxed him.)

JM