What is wrong with this picture?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Only because some who work their games allow them to. I have noted in the past that certain things get overlooked. I have a major problem with safety rules that get ignored, and those who work these games should as well.

I hear you and unfortunately the same is true with football with them.

[BSUmp16]

I’ve done games at De LaSalle.

Re: Picture 92, Because of the sunken dugout, the players love to sit like that. I’ve always told players they have to be “in the dugout” - but it’s an ongoing education process.

Re: Picture 35, we had a discussion at the Association meeting after this game where all umpires were reminded that skullcaps are not allowed in HS.

Re: Picture 43 - White compressions sleeve - not worn by a pitcher - legal

[nopachunts]

Or 42, padding taped to keep inside of the helmet. Tape showing is always a red flag.

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

I’ve done games at De LaSalle.

Re: Picture 92, Because of the sunken dugout, the players love to sit like that. I’ve always told players they have to be “in the dugout” - but it’s an ongoing education process.

Re: Picture 35, we had a discussion at the Association meeting after this game where all umpires were reminded that skullcaps are not allowed in HS.

Re: Picture 43 - White compressions sleeve - not worn by a pitcher - legal

It is an on-going education process, every 4 years and every year after that as a new crop of players come in and are sitting outside dugouts on buckets and such.

And a discussion after the fact is only good if it prevents the NEXT infraction. Clearly this is not something that the guys are making a priority enforcement item.

[briancurtin]

I don't work HS so I didn't know what was wrong with the picture, but I noticed PU wearing the new Majestic shirt. Interesting to see that made its way into a high school game so soon.

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

Re: Picture 43 - White compressions sleeve - not worn by a pitcher - legal

Doesn't wearing a single compression sleeve violate 1-4-2 which requires sleeves of each individual player to be the same approximate length?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Doesn't wearing a single compression sleeve violate 1-4-2 which requires sleeves of each individual player to be the same approximate length?

No. The rule refers to shirt sleeves.

Compression sleeves are legal, provided they violate no other provision (pitcher can't wear white below the elbow, etc.)

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by mbyron

No. The rule refers to shirt sleeves.

Compression sleeves are legal, provided they violate no other provision (pitcher can't wear white below the elbow, etc.)

Not doubting you, I just need some information. Where can I find a rule or case play noting compression sleeves are legal? My searches have proved fruitless.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Not doubting you, I just need some information. Where can I find a rule or case play noting compression sleeves are legal? My searches have proved fruitless.

1.4.2 for how the pitcher may wear a white one.

Otherwise, they are NOT part of the uniform so the uniform rules (sleeve length in this case) don't apply.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

Not doubting you, I just need some information. Where can I find a rule or case play noting compression sleeves are legal? My searches have proved fruitless.

2009 NFHS Baseball Interpretations

SITUATION 4: The pitcher is wearing a white compression type-sleeve on his pitching arm. The opposing coach states that he cannot wear it and, therefore, must remove it. RULING: A compression or medical-type sleeve may be worn by any player, including the pitcher. If it is white and worn on the pitching arm, it cannot extend below the elbow. (1-4-2)

SITUATION 5: The pitcher is wearing a white compression sleeve on his pitching arm that extends below the elbow. RULING: This is not allowed. While a pitcher may wear a compression sleeve, if it is white and worn on his pitching arm, it may not extend below his elbow. A compression sleeve of any length that is neither white nor gray, or deemed to be distracting, may be worn by the pitcher on either arm. (1-4-2)

SITUATION 6: The pitcher is wearing (a) a white compression sleeve that extends from his bicep to his wrist on his non-throwing arm or (b) a compression sleeve that has a light-blue spider-web design. RULING: In (a), provided this is not deemed to be distracting, it is allowed. In (b), provided it is not distracting, it may be worn on either arm. (1-4-2)

[CT1]

FED, in their infinite wisdom, considers compression (AKA "Allen Iverson look-cool") sleeves to be medical or injury-prevention devices.

[treydawgmt]

I get the feeling around here MANY umpires (who I think are good umpires overall) don't enforce the rules of people in the dugout. I ALWAYS enforce (my full time job is a firefighter/paramedic, and I have treated people who weren't sitting in the dugout and have gotten hit) and get flack often - he always does that or what do you mean they can't do that?!? Really? Do you want the kid to die? It happens a few times every year!

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by mbyron

2009 NFHS Baseball Interpretations

SITUATION 4: The pitcher is wearing a white compression type-sleeve on his pitching arm. The opposing coach states that he cannot wear it and, therefore, must remove it. RULING: A compression or medical-type sleeve may be worn by any player, including the pitcher. If it is white and worn on the pitching arm, it cannot extend below the elbow. (1-4-2)

SITUATION 5: The pitcher is wearing a white compression sleeve on his pitching arm that extends below the elbow. RULING: This is not allowed. While a pitcher may wear a compression sleeve, if it is white and worn on his pitching arm, it may not extend below his elbow. A compression sleeve of any length that is neither white nor gray, or deemed to be distracting, may be worn by the pitcher on either arm. (1-4-2)

SITUATION 6: The pitcher is wearing (a) a white compression sleeve that extends from his bicep to his wrist on his non-throwing arm or (b) a compression sleeve that has a light-blue spider-web design. RULING: In (a), provided this is not deemed to be distracting, it is allowed. In (b), provided it is not distracting, it may be worn on either arm. (1-4-2)

Excellent. Thank you for the help.