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SanDiegoSteve Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 838684)
Acting drunk or disorderly is not against the playing rules of baseball, but a ballpark can certainly legislate or mandate that you not do it or be removed from the park. The assertion that the ballpark has no authority over it's fans other than those proscribed in the rulebook that rules the game they are watching is asinine.

Now you are comparing apples to onions. The fan was acting within his rights as a fan, not acting drunk and disorderly. Another leap in logic, and nothing in my post said that the ballpark cannot exercise its authority over violations of the law. However, Geiger did nothing at all illegal. Perhaps someone pointed that out, and is why he was later readmitted to the game.

MD Longhorn Tue Apr 24, 2012 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838685)
Now you are comparing apples to onions. The fan was acting within his rights as a fan, not acting drunk and disorderly. Another leap in logic, and nothing in my post said that the ballpark cannot exercise its authority over violations of the law. However, Geiger did nothing at all illegal. Perhaps someone pointed that out, and is why he was later readmitted to the game.

Not a leap in logic at all. If they have posted a rule that says you can't interfere with play, EVEN IF ON THE FAN'S SIDE OF THE FENCE, then you can't interfere with play on the fan's side of the fence. None of this has anything to do with baseball's OBR.

Rich Ives Tue Apr 24, 2012 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 838714)
Not a leap in logic at all. If they have posted a rule that says you can't interfere with play, EVEN IF ON THE FAN'S SIDE OF THE FENCE, then you can't interfere with play on the fan's side of the fence. None of this has anything to do with baseball's OBR.

But it's the rules that define what interference is - and this isn't it because there is no interference on the fan's side of the fence.

CT1 Wed Apr 25, 2012 03:09pm

"Ticket holder is also subject to removal without compensation in management discretion ..."

This means they can eject or move you for any (or no) reason. It's their ballpark. It may not be good PR to do so, but they have the right to do it.

DG Wed Apr 25, 2012 07:54pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838670)
I don't follow the logic here. The home team expects even fans of their opponents to give the right of way to the home team when it reaches into the fans' domain to attempt a play? If I am a Twins fan, I am going to try to knock the ball out the player's hand who is invading my space, as is my right as a fan. The player is trying to take my souvenir away, and he's going to have to fight me for it. Rays fans may wish to part the Red Sea for their players, that's their prerogative, but you can't legislate or mandate it when it goes against the playing rules of baseball.

I don't see what logic is so hard to understand. If you are are a home team fan help the home team and don't help the visiting team. I'm just saying why mgmt may have ejected a home fan who did not follow home fan etiquette. They should have ignored and be glad they had paid home fans.

SanDiegoSteve Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:06pm

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Originally Posted by DG (Post 838901)
I don't see what logic is so hard to understand. If you are are a home team fan help the home team and don't help the visiting team. I'm just saying why mgmt may have ejected a home fan who did not follow home fan etiquette. They should have ignored and be glad they had paid home fans.

How do you determine a home fan from a visiting fan? I will wear a Pirates shirt and Padres cap when I go to Petco to see my favorite NL East team play. How does the usher determine who you are rooting for?

yawetag Thu Apr 26, 2012 06:20pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838934)
How do you determine a home fan from a visiting fan? I will wear a Pirates shirt and Padres cap when I go to Petco to see my favorite NL East team play. How does the usher determine who you are rooting for?

For that case, I'm going to be wearing a Cardinals shirt when I go to Petco next week (Padres v. Marlins), and I'm sitting right against the wall. If I catch a ball on my side of the wall, am I automatically given free reign or automatically ejected?

SanDiegoSteve Fri Apr 27, 2012 08:11am

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Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 839061)
For that case, I'm going to be wearing a Cardinals shirt when I go to Petco next week (Padres v. Marlins), and I'm sitting right against the wall. If I catch a ball on my side of the wall, am I automatically given free reign or automatically ejected?

Free reign, baby! You will not be ejected if the ball in on your side of the wall. Be sure to go to one of the recommended restaurants. I still say Lou & Mickey's in the Gaslamp for a nice steak.


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