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The video shows the play, then Leyland arguing and then the replay.

Leyland or someone in the dugout knew it hit the batter....how could none of the four umps have seen it. I guess it is possible he made it up and happened to be right but, you gotta think he knew it hit the batter.

The homer Texas announcer must have been looking at a different replay.

What do you guys think?

You have to watch the video several times or be sitting where Leyland was. Unfortunately not one of the officials got to watch the replay OR sit where Leyland was... **** Happens.

Leyland was in the third base dugout-BEHIND the batter.

More calls for instant replay
 

Lots of plays near the plate being missed early in the season.

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I am still shaking my head and confused how four umpires missed it and the manager in the 3rd base dugout could see it.

Are you an umpire?

This is a very, very difficult call to make. The plate guy has *no* chance of seeing this. The other 3 umpires are over 100 feet away. The fielder charging probably had the best look at it and Leyland read his player's reaction.

I'm not going to blame anyone. I've been in this exact same situation and, well, **** happens.

Exactly. The only reason the coach argues is because it went against his team.
I don't think he saw it hit the runner at all - I think he was just arguing.

From the reaction of the other players I don't think they could tell if it hit him or not either. The pitcher is right there and he did nothing but field the ball, and it looks like F5 is just pointing for him to throw home, not that the ball hit the batter.

Plays like this just happen in baseball.

Thanks
David

Sh*t, I had to watch 5 times and then really look hard at the slow motion closeup shot before I saw it hit his foot. Looked like a good bunt up until then.

If I'm remembering correctly, it went off his thigh.

No wonder I didn't see it hit him then!

He might not have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, but he did cross a picket line. Does that count?

I believe it went off of his knee.

There's no way the PU could see it and 2B was straight-lined. The batter didn't seem to give any indication he was hit. I couldn't tell there was a problem until I saw the replay from the 1B side media well.

For the record(for other folks, Steven, you enjoy being wrong), There was no picket line.

I did, however gladly and willingly work Minor League games when asked.

Why, yes, I am.

I am not saying the crew screwed up. I am just curious how four guys could not see what a 127 year old manager could see from behind the play. He might have reacted to his fielder but, he seemed to be out there mighty quickly.

Tough to tell at live speed. Some of you forget how easy it is to tell from the replay. They're making these calls live. There's no way any umpire sees this for 100% except the plate umpire.

And you were only asked when the MiLB umpires were on strike. That in modern day lingo, qualifies you to be called a scab, picket line or not.

I wonder how far down the list they went before your name came up? You can't go much lower in my opinion.

Well, I look on the bright side, at least he's not you! How do you keep from being banned for harassing, inflammatory, and insulting posts?

Whatever! Feel free to throw your over exaggerated insults to me.

Personally if you want to scab, you should have to take all the little perks that go along the trade.

Travel all night to get to your next destination.

Eat crappy leftover food from the concession stand.

Stay in fleabag hotels.

Do your own laundry.

Work for the low wages provided. Etc, etc, etc.

It's easy when all you have to do is show up at the ballpark. Go home to a home cooked meal. Somebody does your laundry. Sleep in your own bed. Etc, etc, etc.

I'm sure that there were probably a great many others that were asked to scab, but chose not too out of respect for the profession. It amazed me how a few wannabes would do such things, when it was basically just a bunch of young kids wanting to earn something of a better wage and per diem.

Take off the training wheels, Steve. You're beginning to sound childish in your replies to me. Time to ride like a big boy for once.

Steven,

Your disdain for me makes me proud. If you liked me , I would hate myself.

Joe

Joe,

Ditto.

Steven

+1

+all the other people on this forum!:rolleyes:

"Never mind"~Emily Latella

I don't understand why scabbing is something to brag about. There was one who did in another association just north of mine. He got blocked as a partner by about 90% of his membership. The only people that will work with him now are his old cronies, and newbies that don't know any better.

I totally support someone's right to be in a union. I totally support folks right to NOT be in a union.

However, I have never bought the claim that the jobs they leave belong to them. The union theology says that striking workers can go get a job-anywhere(no matter how many other people were vying for that same job.) But, the rest of society must refuse the job the strikers left or they are all the scum of the earth.

Many of the striking MiLB umps had no problem taking assignments from other guys (HS, College, tournaments, etc) yet they expected everyone to refuse the MiLB assignments. Furthermore, member of the MiLB union worked Major League games while their "brethren" were striking. UPS drivers delivered to the parks, Beer truck drivers delivered, etc etc.

As long as they paid their association dues to work those games, and were accepted into said association, then they worked games that were assigned to them.

They didn't leave the jobs. They are allowed by Federal Labor laws to bargain in good faith. Strikes sometimes become a necessity when management fails to do so. They call them scabs because they only cover a temporary wound. As soon as the dust clears, management dumps them like the scum of the earth.

MLB umpires didn't strike, they resigned. Big difference.

It doesn't matter who delivers to what. Some unions are required by law to be closed shops. Open shops exist for every employee that do the same job. You are not required to join, you just reap the benefits that your co-workers pay for. How sweet is that, huh?