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SanDiegoSteve Wed Apr 18, 2012 09:33pm

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Originally Posted by cbfoulds (Post 837918)
Seriously? Where do you have BU go/stand during plays in the infield when you have a full crew? While I agree there is some danger of needing to avoid a throw from 2d to home, there is no other situation I can think of where moving inside TO THE HOME SIDE OF THE MOUND could possibly put you in anyone's [or anything's] way. As for part of the play developing behind you, see "1-man {!!HA!!} mechanics" in my previous post - that is gonna happen, no matter what you do; so at least improve both angle and distance to 3/4 of the places you need to see. Actually, it's more like 4/5 improvement, 'cause if there is a play at the plate and you are halfway up 3bl and wide to "open up" the field of view, you are likely to have no view at all of what happens thru R3's backside.

OP stated this was assigned one-man, so we can forget penance for our worthless no-show partner; and The Game was accepted because the assigner needs/ expects someone to take it, and usually the guy who gets offered this kind of game isn't given much choice. Accepting a one-man assignment does not obligate one to tolerate whinging by the people who decided to forego the expense of a 2d umpire when the natural and predicable consequences of their parsimony bite them in the azz; or to be more tolerant or even appologetic for the limitations of our "One-man {I repeat, !!HA!!} mechanics".
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If you don't accept one-man games here, you won't work much ball unless it's Varsity HS or adult ball. No JV, no Pony, no Colt, No Palomino, no Sr. LL, no LL, no Big League, no nothin'. All youth ball here is one-man.

BestUmp Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:21pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 837968)
No, old guy troll with new troll guy user name=troll.

Let's give GROUPthink a chance. :mad:

SanDiegoSteve Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:23pm

That is funny! No, we aren't talking about him. He is a real poster, not a poser.

Steven Tyler Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:05pm

When I've had to work one man, I've always tried to work from around the pitcher's mound. From there, I just try to follow the baseball. I try to be on top of some plays when possible. Not much you can do. I've never had a peep out of a coach doing 1-man.

Steven Tyler Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:07pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 837979)
That is funny! No, we aren't talking about him. He is a real poster, not a poser.

You need to learn how to let things go. You take the bait too easy.

Rich Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 837969)
If you don't accept one-man games here, you won't work much ball unless it's Varsity HS or adult ball. No JV, no Pony, no Colt, No Palomino, no Sr. LL, no LL, no Big League, no nothin'. All youth ball here is one-man.

I'd be done then. No way I'm working 1-man. I'd find something better to do with my life.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Apr 19, 2012 02:58am

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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 837987)
I'd be done then. No way I'm working 1-man. I'd find something better to do with my life.

One-man JV pays $72. I'll do it. Pretty good JV out here. Like many places' varsity.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Apr 19, 2012 03:00am

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 837985)
You need to learn how to let things go. You take the bait too easy.

One slight criticism to you 6 years ago, and it set you off on a vendetta against me and BigUmp that still exists today, so don't tell me to let things go. Practice what you preach.

Welpe Thu Apr 19, 2012 06:50am

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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 837987)
I'd be done then. No way I'm working 1-man. I'd find something better to do with my life.

I agree. It's not worth the aggravation for me.

Steve, what's the rationale for only using one at JV? Lack of umpires? Money?

treydawgmt Thu Apr 19, 2012 08:41am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 838015)
I agree. It's not worth the aggravation for me.

Steve, what's the rationale for only using one at JV? Lack of umpires? Money?

Here at least it's lack of money I'm pretty sure. Most Sophomore and Freshman games pay $57 around here for one umpire. The one conference I do that has 2 umpires pays $51, so it's a bit less for that benefit of 2 umpires. Most coaches talk about how they only have 2 or 3 game balls because their budget doesn't allow anymore. We must be broke here!

Rich Thu Apr 19, 2012 09:59am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838000)
One-man JV pays $72. I'll do it. Pretty good JV out here. Like many places' varsity.

Couldn't care about the $ or the quality of ball. I'd be done working 1-man and would work only games where I'd have 2 even if it meant I didn't work.

Never mind that if the quality is what you say, the game *needs* a second umpire.

Welpe Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:10am

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Originally Posted by GROUPthink (Post 838044)
Couldn't care about the $ or the quality of ball. I'd be done working 1-man and would work only games where I'd have 2 even if it meant I didn't work.

Never mind that if the quality is what you say, the game *needs* a second umpire.

Agreed. I am at the point where I hate working solo be that basketball, softball or baseball. I don't even like working JV football games with three (which is the standard out here).

SanDiegoSteve Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:35am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 838015)
I agree. It's not worth the aggravation for me.

Steve, what's the rationale for only using one at JV? Lack of umpires? Money?

School budget restrictions. It has been one-man for JV in most conferences since before I started umpiring in 1986. It isn't for a lack of umpires, we have a surplus of those.

Rich Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:01am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838053)
School budget restrictions. It has been one-man for JV in most conferences since before I started umpiring in 1986. It isn't for a lack of umpires, we have a surplus of those.

What do varsity umpires get paid?

Steven Tyler Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 838001)
One slight criticism to you 6 years ago, and it set you off on a vendetta against me and BigUmp that still exists today, so don't tell me to let things go. Practice what you preach.

I have no idea as to what you are talking about. You pick too many boogers. It doesn't even matter whose nose it belongs to.

You have a nice day.


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