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Old Sat Mar 03, 2012, 12:33am
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Let me make this as simple as possible. The coaches of this team are total redneck a-holes. Their kids will spike yours if possible when running to the bag on a force play. I have seen them run over fielders attempting to catch pop ups. They will truck your catcher even if there is a clear path to the base. Pretty much every chicken *hit thing you have ever heard about they will do.

For the last 3 years the only time i have seen the catcher hit on the warm up cuts at the plate were against this team. They do it repeatedly and until an umpire makes them stop. I was just curious what specific rule should be used to stop their tactics.
Saw them play yesterday and their batter interfered with the catcher on a throw down to 2nd. The coach complained, again, two earlier instances that appeared to be batter interference were not called, the umpires finally called the kid out for batter interference on the third instance.

Again, not a question about what they are doing or why, only about the specific rule that should be enforced to stop it,

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2012, 02:12pm
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Let me make this as simple as possible. The coaches of this team are total redneck a-holes. Their kids will spike yours if possible when running to the bag on a force play. I have seen them run over fielders attempting to catch pop ups. They will truck your catcher even if there is a clear path to the base. Pretty much every chicken *hit thing you have ever heard about they will do.
FED 3-3-1n covers malicious contact.
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For the last 3 years the only time i have seen the catcher hit on the warm up cuts at the plate were against this team. They do it repeatedly and until an umpire makes them stop. I was just curious what specific rule should be used to stop their tactics.
The umpire does not allow the pitcher to pitch.
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Saw them play yesterday and their batter interfered with the catcher on a throw down to 2nd. The coach complained, again, two earlier instances that appeared to be batter interference were not called, the umpires finally called the kid out for batter interference on the third instance.
FED 7-3-5 covers batter's interference.
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Again, not a question about what they are doing or why, only about the specific rule that should be enforced to stop it,

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Old Sat Mar 03, 2012, 05:48pm
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Let me make this as simple as possible. The coaches of this team are total redneck a-holes. Their kids will spike yours if possible when running to the bag on a force play. I have seen them run over fielders attempting to catch pop ups. They will truck your catcher even if there is a clear path to the base. Pretty much every chicken *hit thing you have ever heard about they will do.

For the last 3 years the only time i have seen the catcher hit on the warm up cuts at the plate were against this team. They do it repeatedly and until an umpire makes them stop. I was just curious what specific rule should be used to stop their tactics.
Saw them play yesterday and their batter interfered with the catcher on a throw down to 2nd. The coach complained, again, two earlier instances that appeared to be batter interference were not called, the umpires finally called the kid out for batter interference on the third instance.

Again, not a question about what they are doing or why, only about the specific rule that should be enforced to stop it,

Thanks

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You must clean this stuff up.

The rule is unsportsmanlike conduct. All codes have some version of it. All you need is your judgement that the act was intentional. Your judgement cannot be questioned. Throw them out of the game without a warning. They will either stop doing it, or run out of players.
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Old Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:19am
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Somebody either batter or F2 is doing something seriously wrong. In thousands of games of umpiring, I have never seen that. Batter could be hinting at F2 to get back off of the plate. Depends on the level. I wouldn't over think it. This is something that you will likely never see again.
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Old Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:33am
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I'm having a hard tome believing that this stuff happens at high school level (per the OP poster in post 9) without retribution.

Someone has a perception problem with the activity - the only question is who has the problem.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 01:39am
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I'm confused if the OP is talking about a "back swing" where the batter is in the box, and the batter is swinging his bat back, and hitting the catcher, or the "back swing" which is really "follow through" in my book, and hitting the catcher.

The first one is chicken sh*t, and the other one is stupidity (hopefully, not intentional). I would cut out both of them in a heartbeat, and make no qualms about it.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:37am
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Let me make this as simple as possible. The coaches of this team are total redneck a-holes. Their kids will spike yours if possible when running to the bag on a force play.
EJECT!!!
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I have seen them run over fielders attempting to catch pop ups.
EJECT!!!!!
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They will truck your catcher even if there is a clear path to the base.
EJECT!!!!!
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Pretty much every chicken *hit thing you have ever heard about they will do.

For the last 3 years the only time i have seen the catcher hit on the warm up cuts at the plate were against this team. They do it repeatedly and until an umpire makes them stop. I was just curious what specific rule should be used to stop their tactics.
Saw them play yesterday and their batter interfered with the catcher on a throw down to 2nd. The coach complained, again, two earlier instances that appeared to be batter interference were not called, the umpires finally called the kid out for batter interference on the third instance.

Again, not a question about what they are doing or why, only about the specific rule that should be enforced to stop it,

Thanks

Easygoer
Seriously? Try malicious contact OR unsportsmanlike conduct. You've seen all these things and done nothing? EJECT!!!!!! That's the only way it stops.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:13pm
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EJECT!!! EJECT!!!!!EJECT!!!!! Seriously? Try malicious contact OR unsportsmanlike conduct. You've seen all these things and done nothing? EJECT!!!!!! That's the only way it stops.
Anyone up to a road trip to easygoer's fields? Give a week or two with him having to deal with umpires that don't allow this crap to happen and he'll either learn his lesson or be barred from the league. Either one would be a benefit to baseball.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2012, 03:37am
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If the team he is talking about is a travel team, quit inviting them. If they are a league team, kick them out.
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