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easygoer Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:05pm

Batter Hitting Catcher on Backswing-Repeatedly
 
Is there a rule that prohibits the batter from intentionally hitting the catcher with his bat? How do you know it is intentional?? When they hit the catcher five times in a row with a swing that in no way resembles a warm-up swing. They did it last year as well, same team; it never happens against any other teams. What’s the rule?
Easygoer

briancurtin Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:01pm

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Originally Posted by easygoer (Post 828689)
How do you know it is intentional??

When it's intentional.

Publius Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:09pm

Are you sure you're in the right forum? This sounds like a softball question. I've never seen or heard of a baseball team letting an opponent hit their catcher three times, let alone five.

When this happens where I live, the rule is sore ribs.

johnnyg08 Wed Feb 29, 2012 07:13am

Just curious, what level?

Ask the kid what baseball school he's going to with some moron telling him that it's going to make him a better player.

MD Longhorn Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:48am

Does "they" mean that one person hit the catcher 5 times, or that it happened 5 times during a game, from different players?

If he's in the box, the catcher needs to move back. If he's looking back at catcher when this happens, I likely have an ejection.

If you think it's intentional, I'd err on the side of safety and toss him. But if you're not sure, consider the possibility that this team is just coached to stand as far back in the box as possible.

ozzy6900 Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:05pm

If this happens on a practice swing, the PU is supposed to step out and call "TIME - Back swing hit the catcher!" Then get everyone reset and start again. This was an old trick back in the teens & twenties to distract the catcher especially when there are men on base. Today, we do not want the catcher distracted like this so the PU has to take control.

I had this happen in a HS game where F1 set up and B1 stepped into the box and set up deep. I stopped them once, then twice. The 2nd time, I said "Gentlemen, you two need to figure this out before we continue." B1 stepped back in in almost the same spot but did not hit the catcher again.

SAump Thu Mar 01, 2012 02:20am

At least 2 (rules)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by easygoer (Post 828689)
Is there a rule that prohibits the batter from intentionally hitting the catcher with his bat? How do you know it is intentional?? When they hit the catcher five times in a row with a swing that in no way resembles a warm-up swing. They did it last year as well, same team; it never happens against any other teams. What’s the rule?
Easygoer

1st is catcher's interference. Award 1st base. Move the catcher further off the plate.
2nd is warn batter after 1st contact, and eject after 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th contact.

Matt Thu Mar 01, 2012 03:52am

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Originally Posted by SAump (Post 828988)
1st is catcher's interference. Award 1st base.

Absolutely wrong.

easygoer Thu Mar 01, 2012 07:44am

Two different kids hit the catcher, one of the kids did it five times in a row. This is a pattern of behavior from this team, high school level. Was curious if there is a specific rule that applies. I am aware of catchers interference, this is not that.

Thanks

Easygoer

jkumpire Thu Mar 01, 2012 07:58am

Looks, like a pattern, seems like a pattern, smells like a pattern
 
Ignore, Warn, eject. He doesn't get to five.

MikeStrybel Thu Mar 01, 2012 09:26am

Ignore a batter intentionally hitting the catcher with a bat?

Really? Not around here.

MikeStrybel Thu Mar 01, 2012 09:30am

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Originally Posted by easygoer (Post 829021)
Two different kids hit the catcher, one of the kids did it five times in a row. This is a pattern of behavior from this team, high school level. Was curious if there is a specific rule that applies. I am aware of catchers interference, this is not that.

Thanks

Easygoer

Try 3-3-1g (4) or 10-2-3f - both deal with unsportsmanlike behavior.

MD Longhorn Thu Mar 01, 2012 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by easygoer (Post 829021)
Two different kids hit the catcher, one of the kids did it five times in a row. This is a pattern of behavior from this team, high school level. Was curious if there is a specific rule that applies. I am aware of catchers interference, this is not that.

Thanks

Easygoer

You were there. Only you can determine intent. Eject if necessary - surely you don't need to be directed to a specific rule citation to justify ejecting a player who is intentionally hitting another player with a bat!

MD Longhorn Thu Mar 01, 2012 09:41am

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Originally Posted by mikestrybel (Post 829036)
ignore a batter intentionally hitting the catcher with a bat?

Really? Not around here.

+1

dash_riprock Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:45am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 829042)
+1

+1

If I'm sure it's intentional, there is no warning. No warning on a retaliatory antic either.


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