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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:31am
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New in MLB labor deal -- more replay, longer All-Star break - ESPN

NEW YORK -- Baseball's new labor contract includes more video replay, the chance for a longer All-Star break and a small, but likely welcome perk for players: the chance to get a private room instead of a roommate during spring training.

The Associated Press obtained the document that includes several changes, many starting next year. Among them:

• Allowing teams from the same division to meet in the playoffs before the league championship series.

• A ban on players getting tattoos with corporate logos.

• The possibility of players wearing microphones during games.

Players have already ratified the hundreds of pages contained in Major League Baseball's Memorandum of Understanding. Owners are scheduled to vote Thursday.

Also part of the deal: Any big leaguer who wants to change uniform numbers without switching teams better give eight months' notice unless he's willing to buy warehouses full of his overstocked jerseys.

MLB wants to expand replay to include fair-or-foul calls, "whether a fly ball or line drive was trapped" and fan interference all around the ballpark. Umpires still must give their approval and it's uncertain whether the extra replay will be in place by Opening Day. Video review began in August 2008, but only to look at potential home runs.

The All-Star break will be expanded to four days, rather than the traditional three-day gap. The five-year deal says starting in 2013 that MLB "shall have the right to elect to switch the All-Star game from Tuesday to Wednesday and the Home Run Derby from Monday to Tuesday." Sixty-nine of 82 All-Star games have been played on Tuesday, according to STATS LLC.
Gone, too, are the days of roommates, something that dates back decades, to the days players rode the rails to Florida. Now, all players on 40-man rosters are assured of single rooms during spring training. They've had that perk during the regular season since 1997.

And for players thinking about selling ads on their bodies, MLB has thought ahead. The agreement says "no player may have any visible markings or logos tattooed on his body" as part of the uniform regulations.

"Just trying to head something off at the pass," said Rob Manfred, baseball's executive vice president for labor relations.

The NFL has a rule against "unauthorized commercial identification," according to spokesman Greg Aiello, and the NBA has a rule banning corporate insignia, spokesman Mike Bass said. Baseball appears to be the first U.S. major pro league to specifically ban commercial tattoos.

Also part of the deal: Any big leaguer who wants to change uniform numbers without switching teams better give eight months' notice, unless he's willing to buy warehouses full of his overstocked jerseys. Quick uniform number switches will be a thing of the past.

Players must tell the commissioner's office by July 31 of the preceding year if they want a new jersey. That is, unless "the player (or someone on his behalf) purchases the existing finished goods inventory of apparel containing the player's jersey number." As in, every replica jersey, jacket, T-shirt, mug and anything else with a number that's anywhere in stock.

The deal also bans players and team officials from asking official scorers to reconsider decisions -- clubs must instead send video to MLB to appeal calls -- and increases punishments for slow-moving hitters and pitchers, raising pace-of-game fines up to $10,000 each for the sixth violation and beyond.

There are several provisions regarding players' conduct. They include:
• A ban on players betting with illegal bookies on any sport.

• New language allowing the commissioner to discipline players for violating federal, state or local law or for conduct "materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of baseball."

• Possible suspensions for intentionally throwing a ball or equipment at non-uniformed personnel with the intention of causing bodily harm; for assaulting fans, media or umpires; or for making public statements that question the integrity of the game, the umpires, the commissioner or the commissioner's staff.

"Just want to make sure our rules are up to date," Manfred said. "In general we looked at the rules and thought we had some things that could be tighter."

Players also can be disciplined for violating MLB's social media policy, which still is being developed.

The agreement calls for nicknames written on equipment to "not reasonably likely to offend fans, business partners, players and others associated with the game."

Eliminating a practice of some teams, there is a prohibition on "taxi squads" -- calling up players from the minors and not activating them. Also, teams may only invite players to offseason minicamps if they are not yet eligible for salary arbitration.

The deal includes a new schedule format starting in 2013, when there will be six five-team divisions, with no more than 20 interleague games per team. Teams will play 17 or 18 times against division opponents, with the exact format still to be worked out.

And there's at least one issue still to be decided.

For the postseason, the sides agreed to negotiate on tiebreaker rules -- do teams tied for the last wild-card berth meet on the field, or will the tie be broken by a formula?
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:45am
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What if scenarios?

their language "fair or foul calls" is pretty vauge: what about foul tips not legally caught? or ball off the batter's foot? or batted fly ball hit's fielder's glove over fair/foul territory?

Just thought of one that probably should be considered for replay that they didn't mention - batter hit by pitch ie. the one's that barely graze the jersey or the one that hit his hand, knob of the bat or both?

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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:04pm
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UMPIRES HAVE TO GIVE THEIR APPROVAL?????? WTF who do they work for? Last I looked it was MLB. It's bad enough its almost impossible to get rid of those that suck but now MLB has to ask for their permission to modify replay. That has nothing to do with work rules, conditions etc. IMHO I think it's ridiculous.
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:23pm
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their language "fair or foul calls" is pretty vauge: what about foul tips not legally caught? or ball off the batter's foot? or batted fly ball hit's fielder's glove over fair/foul territory?

Just thought of one that probably should be considered for replay that they didn't mention - batter hit by pitch ie. the one's that barely graze the jersey or the one that hit his hand, knob of the bat or both?
"MLB wants to expand replay to include fair-or-foul calls, "whether a fly ball or line drive was trapped" and fan interference all around the ballpark."

I'm pretty certain that this is the language of the ESPN writer, not MLB. The final language will undoubtedly be very clear about what is and isn't permissible.
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UMPIRES HAVE TO GIVE THEIR APPROVAL?????? WTF who do they work for? Last I looked it was MLB. It's bad enough its almost impossible to get rid of those that suck but now MLB has to ask for their permission to modify replay. That has nothing to do with work rules, conditions etc. IMHO I think it's ridiculous.
Same people the players work for ... and their union has to approve these as well. You don't think changing replay changes their work rules? Your ire is silly.
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UMPIRES HAVE TO GIVE THEIR APPROVAL?????? WTF who do they work for? Last I looked it was MLB. It's bad enough its almost impossible to get rid of those that suck but now MLB has to ask for their permission to modify replay. That has nothing to do with work rules, conditions etc. IMHO I think it's ridiculous.
What your duties are on the job are work rules. Using a replay device is a duty.
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Old Thu Dec 15, 2011, 05:44pm
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What your duties are on the job are work rules. Using a replay device is a duty.
I suppose, but I think only the MLB has to get approval, for rules changes like instant replay, from its officials/referee's union. It really makes no sense to me.
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I suppose, but I think only the MLB has to get approval, for rules changes like instant replay, from its officials/referee's union. It really makes no sense to me.
I am sure it is in their collective bargaining contract to have rules approval or procedure to be approved. Then again it is not like MLB changes many rules.

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Same people the players work for ... and their union has to approve these as well. You don't think changing replay changes their work rules? Your ire is silly.
I know the player's union must give approval, but the umpire's union as well.

I'd have to see that in writing to believe that.
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I know the player's union must give approval, but the umpire's union as well.

I'd have to see that in writing to believe that.
You think that MLB and the umpires are going to give you a copy of the contract?

Why would MLB lie about it?
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Old Fri Dec 16, 2011, 08:51pm
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their language "fair or foul calls" is pretty vauge: what about foul tips not legally caught? or ball off the batter's foot? or batted fly ball hit's fielder's glove over fair/foul territory?

Just thought of one that probably should be considered for replay that they didn't mention - batter hit by pitch ie. the one's that barely graze the jersey or the one that hit his hand, knob of the bat or both?
Until the infra-red technology we saw this post season, I would have argued that video replay rarely resolves these issues. But, if what it really works as good as it appeared to, and it can be applied to every ballpark, it might make sense to use it for these marginal contact calls.
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You think that MLB and the umpires are going to give you a copy of the contract?

Why would MLB lie about it?
It doesn't have to be in the contract. It can be a side bargaining agreement.
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