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Thu Apr 24, 2003, 01:56pm
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Then somebody better get the word out to the 200 some odd umpires that I know! lol
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Thu Apr 24, 2003, 02:55pm
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Those umpires make it difficult for those of us that know the rules and know what their intent is.
Just because something looks "different" or "weird" does not make it a balk. He delivered legally, as defined in 8.01 (windup position). Rich
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 07:16am
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You wouldn't want to bet me...would you? lol
All I'm saying, is I have been to several clinics where the instructor/clinician has described this play, and it has been a BALK! I'm not saying they are right, because obviously by rule, they have not been. I would just like to mention, I have known 20 yr. officials that know every rule and interpretation of the rule, but on the court and on the field, you would think it was their 1st game. Rich said: Those umpires make it difficult for those of us that know the rules and know what their intent is. OK, Lord of the Umps!
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 07:36am
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 08:09am
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Nope, Bob, same situation.
I did it standing in my living room and started laughing! If that's not a Quick Pitch, what is?
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 08:30am
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A quick pitch is one delivered when the batter is not yet reasonably set in the batter's box. There was nothing provided stating the batter was not set in the box. If set in the box, the mere act of delivering in a new, faster motion that takes less time or less motion is not a quick pitch. It's merely a different delivery motion. Freix
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 10:53am
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"If set in the box, the mere act of delivering in a new, faster motion that takes less time or less motion is not a quick pitch. It's merely a different delivery motion.
...and a LEGAL deceptive move as opposed to an ILLEGAL deceptive move. Pitchers are allowed to attempt to deceive, if done legally. Altering the rhythm and tempo are among the most common. No amount of stories about clinics, 200 umpires or endless LOL's at the end of posts will change the facts.
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 03:05pm
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It wasn't that long ago
All this talk about 20 year umps and stuff makes me feel old.
We should all remember the Tommy Johns and Jim Kaats of the world. They were able to extend their career several years with the one step delivery. Undoubtably it was much better on the arm because they did it for several years at the end of their careers. I'm sure there were others but they are two that come to mind who were quite noteworthy. To the umpires that called the balks, please show me the rule that says this is contrary. I don't see it in FED, OBR, or NAPBL etc, they all say the same things as stated above. Thanks David
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Fri Apr 25, 2003, 06:56pm
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Had a coach come popping off about a kid that didn't "stretch" before pitching outa the set. Kid engaged rubber with hands feet clearly stopped, then pitched. Told him to look up "may" in the webster, then read the pitching positions. Boy, this thread has been beaten!!
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If in set stance he must have hands split to take signs. Then he must bring hands together in front of his body and come to a complete stop. He cannot legally step and pitch from the hands separated position. He can avoid the "stretch" by merely bringing his hands together without "stretching" upward above his setting point and then lowering into the set. Freix
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