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[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Some think the government should be less involved, some think more invilved, some think jsut as involved as they are now, some think the level is fine, but the focus needs to be changed.

I hope that covers it, and no one feels the need to turn this into a political discussion.

With all due respect, Bob, this became a political issue when politicians involved themselves in the discussion. They chose to make it a political discussion, not us.

[CT1]

The senators noted that millions of people will tune in to watch the World Series, including children.

Not nearly as many children as you'd think, with all games being played at night.

"The use of tobacco by big league ballplayers at a single World Series game provides millions of dollars worth of free television advertising for an addictive and deadly product."

As opposed to the millions of dollars spent on advertising alcohol, which is SOLD at the games.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

With all due respect, Bob, this became a political issue when politicians involved themselves in the discussion. They chose to make it a political discussion, not us.

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by CT1

Not nearly as many children as you'd think, with all games being played at night.

Kids do not watch baseball anymore anyway. It is older 45 year old and older that grew up on the game and mostly white males. Heck hardly anyone outside of that is consistently watching baseball. The kids are more into the NBA and the NFL. And that does not matter if the games are played at day or night.

Originally Posted by CT1

As opposed to the millions of dollars spent on advertising alcohol, which is SOLD at the games.

That is what I do not get. We worry about the "kids" but then they expose them to ads with a think they cannot even have until they are 21, then we get upset over what someone puts in their mouth during a game?

Peace

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Totally agree.



Kids do not watch baseball anymore anyway. It is older 45 year old and older that grew up on the game and mostly white males. Heck hardly anyone outside of that is consistently watching baseball. The kids are more into the NBA and the NFL. And that does not matter if the games are played at day or night.





Peace

And what Gallup Poll did you commission to reach that conclusion?

If truth be told (it kills me to say it) Soccer will soon be the sport of choice when the kids grow up.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

And what Gallup Poll did you commission to reach that conclusion?

If truth be told (it kills me to say it) Soccer will soon be the sport of choice when the kids grow up.

The NF has baseball as the fourth most popular sport as it relates to participation.

I do not agree with the last part because our country only thinks of this country in such a narrow way. Real soccer talent is playing outside of this country. How many kids want to go to Spain or Brazil or England to play a game they cannot see on SportsCenter? Also does the average kid know the contracts of Messi or Kaka like they do A-Rod or LeBron. Our best athletes do not play soccer and probably never will in this country unless there is a huge shift in attitude towards football and basketball. Even with the lockout in the NBA, kids love NBA basketball or at least some of the best athletes that are likely to become NBA players and that is inner-city or urban background kids. And playing soccer is expensive for a kid to play, while basketball you do not need much to become decent.

Peace

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...And playing soccer is expensive for a kid to play...

What is your context for this comment? All you need for soccer is open space and something to pass for a ball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What is your context for this comment? All you need for soccer is open space and something to pass for a ball.

You need soccer balls, fields, goals and probably shoes to play at the highest levels of organized ball and other individuals to play with or against to test you real skill. When I went to the World Cup last year I saw many kids playing in the playground, who does that in the states?

I can go to the local gym right now and play the game alone by shooting baskets, but will find many willing participants to play against in a semi-serious way.

Peace

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The NF has baseball as the fourth most popular sport as it relates to participation.

I do not agree with the last part because our country only thinks of this country in such a narrow way. Real soccer talent is playing outside of this country. How many kids want to go to Spain or Brazil or England to play a game they cannot see on SportsCenter? Also does the average kid know the contracts of Messi or Kaka like they do A-Rod or LeBron. Our best athletes do not play soccer and probably never will in this country unless there is a huge shift in attitude towards football and basketball. Even with the lockout in the NBA, kids love NBA basketball or at least some of the best athletes that are likely to become NBA players and that is inner-city or urban background kids. And playing soccer is expensive for a kid to play, while basketball you do not need much to become decent.

Peace

In the fall the parks are filled and I mean filled to capacity with little kids playing soccer. These little kids will grow up to be soccer fans. As far as soccer being expensive well all you need is a ball. Incidently I think MLB set another attendance record. That's a lot of 45 year olds going to games. I won't see it in my lifetime but when the studies come out and show how serious concussions are participation in football will go way down. You know why? The Moms won't let their sons play.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

In the fall the parks are filled and I mean filled to capacity with little kids playing soccer. These little kids will grow up to be soccer fans.

Just because a kid played soccer from ages 9-13 doesn't mean that they will be a life long soccer fan.

Originally Posted by gordon30307

I won't see it in my lifetime but when the studies come out and show how serious concussions are participation in football will go way down. You know why? The Moms won't let their sons play.

Assuming that the concussions studies actually produce the results that you are predicting and assuming that helmet technology does not improve and reduce the risk of concussions.

Riddell introduced a new helmet in 2002. A three year study was conducted using over 2,000 HS football players the the new helmet reduced the risk of a player suffering their first concussion by 41%. Riddell recently introduced a new helmet but I don't believe there are statistics on that helmet yet. Football players used to have a decent risk of suffering a skull fracture and dying. Helmet technology has basically eliminated that risk. Helmet technology is continuing to improve and reduce the risk of concussions.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

I won't see it in my lifetime but when the studies come out and show how serious concussions are participation in football will go way down. You know why? The Moms won't let their sons play.

You must not see many youth football games. Moms are the ones sitting their yelling for their kids to play football the most at the ages you claim are playing soccer. Lacrosse has probably one of the biggest followings recently in this country, not soccer.

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And playing soccer is expensive for a kid to play, while basketball you do not need much to become decent.

The fact that soccer, in it's most basic form, is INexpensive is the very reason it's the world's most popular sport.

It's my opinion, however, that it won't become wildly popular among adults in the U.S. until they do something to increase scoring.

Carrots.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by CT1

The fact that soccer, in it's most basic form, is INexpensive is the very reason it's the world's most popular sport.

It's my opinion, however, that it won't become wildly popular among adults in the U.S. until they do something to increase scoring.

Carrots.

As soon as they figure how to make the sport attractive to gambling that's when it will take off. That's one of the main reasons why football is so popular. It's the gambling.