Ball hits runner

Johnny Ringo · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 03:46pm

Runner on second, ground ball hit to SS. SS charges the ball and misses it. Ball hits runner. Is the runner out?

Umpires decision was he was not out because fielder attempted to make play on ball. Is there ever an instance where the runner is not out if the ball hits them?

Dave Reed · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 05:40pm

The MLBUM offers the following summary:
A runner is out when struck by a batted ball (unintentional on the part of the runner) unless:
(1) The ball has been touched by an infielder
(2) The ball has passed through or by an infielder (i.e., through the infielder's legs or past the reach of the infielder attempting to field the ball AND no other infielder has a chance to make a play on the ball.

lawump · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 06:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Runner on second, ground ball hit to SS. SS charges the ball and misses it. Ball hits runner. Is the runner out?

As Dave Reed's post implies, you have not given us enough information. If F6 truly did not touch the ball when he missed it, then the issue becomes whether or not another defensive player (i.e. F5) had a chance to make a play on the ball. If yes, then R2 is out. If no, then "that's nothing!" and the ball remains live.

Johnny Ringo · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 06:17pm

No, there was no other defensive player in the area. Basically what happened was the SS missed the ball and it then hit the runner.

bob jenkins · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 06:25pm

The runner is "allowed" to assume that a competent F6 woudl field the ball, so the runner is not out.

Larry1953 · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 06:45pm

So if the infield is playing in and F6 is moving laterally toward the hole for the grounder which goes past him by more than a "step and a reach" and the untouched ball hits the runner, R2 would be out, correct? I suppose the OP would need to specify the rule set (of an alternate string theory universe).

rbmartin · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 17, 2011, 11:05pm

What rule set are we using?

Rich Ives · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 18, 2011, 09:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry1953

So if the infield is playing in and F6 is moving laterally toward the hole for the grounder which goes past him by more than a "step and a reach" and the untouched ball hits the runner, R2 would be out, correct?

OBR, Yes.

FED & NCAA, No.

That's the way it is. Deal with it.

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