The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 12:54pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,262
While I think it's nice for the umpires to not have to examine equipment before the game anymore, there's no question in my mind this reduces player safety. I've had to disqualify more cracked batting helmets than I can remember including helmets for the same team on separate occasions.

In my experience, coaches can't be trusted with this responsibility.
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 01:16pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastshire View Post
While I think it's nice for the umpires to not have to examine equipment before the game anymore, there's no question in my mind this reduces player safety. I've had to disqualify more cracked batting helmets than I can remember including helmets for the same team on separate occasions.

In my experience, coaches can't be trusted with this responsibility.
If they cannot be trusted, then they do not need to be working for a school. We should not have to be worried about something before the game. We do not go around and check all equipment in football and that is a much more violent sport. Of course if we spot check things, but we do not go over to every kid with a (football) helmet and see if they have a sticker or if everyone has a mouthpiece. This was always silly and not done properly by many either. Put this on the coaches. And a bat was not always about safety, it was about legality. If they bring in an illegal bat, then it should be noticed or pointed out during the game and the appropriate penalty should occur.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 01:31pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
I'm thrilled. Now we can enter the field at the end of infield, go right to the plate, have the plate meeting, anthem, and go.
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 01:38pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
I'm thrilled. Now we can enter the field at the end of infield, go right to the plate, have the plate meeting, anthem, and go.
+1

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 08, 2011, 01:39pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 108
Send a message via Yahoo to rcaverly
I am pleased that NFHS made the rule change. I am anxious to see it in the book with some accompanying case plays. The devil will be found in the details. It's still the NFHS, after all.

After playing and supposedly having crews checking equipment during 30-some regular and post-season games this year, plus 30-or-so more games in summer-ball played under the NFHS code, I still found an illegal bat at last night’s game, plus a cracked helmet (same team...go figure.)

The team’s summertime coach was surprised.

I would like to see an automatic ejection of the head coach as the penalty for discovering that his team used illegal equipment during a game after having declared at the pre-game conference that his team's, "... players are legally and properly equipped."

Yeah, like that'll ever happen.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 08, 2011, 08:10am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
If they cannot be trusted, then they do not need to be working for a school. We should not have to be worried about something before the game. We do not go around and check all equipment in football and that is a much more violent sport. Of course if we spot check things, but we do not go over to every kid with a (football) helmet and see if they have a sticker or if everyone has a mouthpiece. This was always silly and not done properly by many either. Put this on the coaches. And a bat was not always about safety, it was about legality. If they bring in an illegal bat, then it should be noticed or pointed out during the game and the appropriate penalty should occur.

Peace
I agree, but they don't let me make the hiring decisions for the coaches. Hopefully, they will step up to their responsibilities, but somehow I doubt it.

I do agree that it should be the coach's responsibility; I've just seen a lot of irresponsible coaches.
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 08, 2011, 09:09am
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
I love the fact that we no longer have to roam the dugouts. Excellent rule change. Time for the coaches to be held accountable.
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 01:39pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastshire View Post
While I think it's nice for the umpires to not have to examine equipment before the game anymore, there's no question in my mind this reduces player safety. I've had to disqualify more cracked batting helmets than I can remember including helmets for the same team on separate occasions.

In my experience, coaches can't be trusted with this responsibility.
Not. My. Problem.

I'm not getting all weepy about player safety. It's about time coaches are left with this responsibility. I'm just thrilled I'll never have to go into another dugout.
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 06:23pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Tennessee
Posts: 175
Fortunately, I didn't have to go into dugouts anyway. I always had the equipment to be used during the game brought outside of the dugouts.

Umpires have NO business in dugouts.

I too love the new rule.
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jul 07, 2011, 06:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: CT
Posts: 2,439
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastshire View Post
While I think it's nice for the umpires to not have to examine equipment before the game anymore, there's no question in my mind this reduces player safety. I've had to disqualify more cracked batting helmets than I can remember including helmets for the same team on separate occasions.

In my experience, coaches can't be trusted with this responsibility.
Funny, NCAA Made this change a couple of years ago and there were no worries about not trusting coaches.

All I know is, it's about time! Thank you NHFS!
__________________
When in doubt, bang 'em out!
Ozzy
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modified NFHS Bat Rule for 2012 pastordoug Baseball 8 Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:18am
NFHS Rules Interpreters versus IAABO Rules Interpreters dpicard Basketball 7 Mon Dec 07, 2009 01:13pm
No softball at London 2012! Antonella Softball 8 Mon Feb 13, 2006 04:32pm
There are no rules and those are the rules. NCAA JeffTheRef Basketball 6 Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:01pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1