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Forest Ump Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:42am

Hit by Pitch, Strike three. SF Giants
 
In all my years of watching MLB and umpiring amateur ball, I have never seen a game end on a HBP, Strike three. Here it is.

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Rita C Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:47am

Wow.

Rita

azbigdawg Thu Jun 09, 2011 01:18am

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Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 764266)
Wow.

Rita

Not sure what that means.... I'm not a baseball guy....thoughts?

MD Longhorn Thu Jun 09, 2011 07:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 764273)
Not sure what that means.... I'm not a baseball guy....thoughts?

Sure... "Wow" indicates the poster is somewhat astonished by the play.

azbigdawg Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:13am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 764325)
Sure... "Wow" indicates the poster is somewhat astonished by the play.

You're not as funny as you think you are.....

I'm looking for why it's a good/bad call.... but I think you already knew that...:rolleyes:

kylejt Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 764273)
I'm not a baseball guy....thoughts?

Just one. Wadda ya doin' here?


("Wow", as in, you don't see that very often to end a game.)

ozzy6900 Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 764273)
Not sure what that means.... I'm not a baseball guy....thoughts?

Okay:
  1. You are on a baseball umpire's forum - not a baseball fan's forum.
  2. There are 2 strikes on the batter and he is hit in the hand while swinging at the pitch - he does not get to go to 1st.
  3. The home plate umpire ruled that that batter did swing, so having 2 strikes already, the batter is out.
  4. This is a very rare play to happen at the end of the game.
Did that clear up things?

bob jenkins Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:58am

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 764361)
You're not as funny as you think you are.....

I'm looking for why it's a good/bad call.... but I think you already knew that...:rolleyes:

I didn't get that from your post at all. I took it as you were asking what "wow" stood for -- as if it were some sort of TLA.

When a batter swings and doesn't hit the ball (with the bat), it's a strike.

When a batter is hit by a pitch, the ball is dead.

Combining those two rules on this play gives third strike, dead ball, game over.

jdmara Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:10am

The lack of response by Sam Holbrook makes the play confusing. From the clip he doesn't signal anything. He must have appealed the swing and then called him out.

-Josh

azbigdawg Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:23am

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Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 764367)
Okay:
  1. You are on a baseball umpire's forum - not a baseball fan's forum.
  2. There are 2 strikes on the batter and he is hit in the hand while swinging at the pitch - he does not get to go to 1st.
  3. The home plate umpire ruled that that batter did swing, so having 2 strikes already, the batter is out.
  4. This is a very rare play to happen at the end of the game.
Did that clear up things?

I'm going to resist the digs and say "Thank You" and just let it go....

azbigdawg Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:25am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 764368)
I didn't get that from your post at all. I took it as you were asking what "wow" stood for -- as if it were some sort of TLA.

When a batter swings and doesn't hit the ball (with the bat), it's a strike.

When a batter is hit by a pitch, the ball is dead.

Combining those two rules on this play gives third strike, dead ball, game over.


Thank you... I guess I was looking for more from the op...as to whether it was a bad call, good call and why not. I was curious and her response to the original post told me nothing.

MD Longhorn Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 764361)
You're not as funny as you think you are.....

I'm looking for why it's a good/bad call.... but I think you already knew that...:rolleyes:

Sorry - my psychic abilities to discern that your question was actually NOT about the post you quoted, but about a different post, must have failed me.

Sure ... roll your eyes all you like - you changing of the meaning of your question by quoting an irrelevant post is obviously my fault.

:rolleyes:

(Seriously, even not being a baseball umpire, (and admitting the TH's are not always the best source of info) - your announcers explain the call relatively well for once... what is your question then?)

MD Longhorn Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 764372)
The lack of response by Sam Holbrook makes the play confusing. From the clip he doesn't signal anything. He must have appealed the swing and then called him out.

-Josh

Yes - that's exactly what happened... you can see the beginning of him pointing to his partner in a couple of the angles.

jdmara Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:17pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 764387)
Yes - that's exactly what happened... you can see the beginning of him pointing to his partner in a couple of the angles.

Thanks. I knew he must have done that but I wasn't paying too close of attention obviously

-Josh

rbmartin Thu Jun 09, 2011 02:10pm

The umpires AND the announcers got this right. Go figure.


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