Hit by Pitch, Strike three. SF Giants
 

In all my years of watching MLB and umpiring amateur ball, I have never seen a game end on a HBP, Strike three. Here it is.

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Wow.

Rita

Not sure what that means.... I'm not a baseball guy....thoughts?

Sure... "Wow" indicates the poster is somewhat astonished by the play.

You're not as funny as you think you are.....

I'm looking for why it's a good/bad call.... but I think you already knew that...:rolleyes:

Just one. Wadda ya doin' here?


("Wow", as in, you don't see that very often to end a game.)

Okay:

1. You are on a baseball umpire's forum - not a baseball fan's forum.
2. There are 2 strikes on the batter and he is hit in the hand while swinging at the pitch - he does not get to go to 1st.
3. The home plate umpire ruled that that batter did swing, so having 2 strikes already, the batter is out.
4. This is a very rare play to happen at the end of the game.

Did that clear up things?

I didn't get that from your post at all. I took it as you were asking what "wow" stood for -- as if it were some sort of TLA.

When a batter swings and doesn't hit the ball (with the bat), it's a strike.

When a batter is hit by a pitch, the ball is dead.

Combining those two rules on this play gives third strike, dead ball, game over.

The lack of response by Sam Holbrook makes the play confusing. From the clip he doesn't signal anything. He must have appealed the swing and then called him out.

-Josh

I'm going to resist the digs and say "Thank You" and just let it go....

Thank you... I guess I was looking for more from the op...as to whether it was a bad call, good call and why not. I was curious and her response to the original post told me nothing.

Sorry - my psychic abilities to discern that your question was actually NOT about the post you quoted, but about a different post, must have failed me.

Sure ... roll your eyes all you like - you changing of the meaning of your question by quoting an irrelevant post is obviously my fault.

:rolleyes:

(Seriously, even not being a baseball umpire, (and admitting the TH's are not always the best source of info) - your announcers explain the call relatively well for once... what is your question then?)

Yes - that's exactly what happened... you can see the beginning of him pointing to his partner in a couple of the angles.

Thanks. I knew he must have done that but I wasn't paying too close of attention obviously

-Josh

The umpires AND the announcers got this right. Go figure.

I too, am not a baseball umpire. I was under the impression, given to me a long time ago by a very good umpire of both baseball and softball that we could all learn from each other. I guess I, or he, was mistaken in this. I will try to just go out and make the same mistakes everyone else does to learn on my own.

Hmm,
 

I thought Rita's post was obvious to an UMPIRE. Maybe it was not so obvious to a non-umpire.

I thought the shot back by our non-umpire was silly. This site is not a site to educate fandom.


T

Who are the "non-umpires" you are referring to?

also...thanks for the edit....

What digs? I broke it down for you and you have a problem with that? It just goes to show that fans are dumber than coaches.

Begone!

Probably you. In post #3 you said you're "not a baseball guy." What other kind of umpire is there (excluding the football kind)?

I'm not a fan.

I thought WOW meant, gee, I never seen a game end like that either, but darn good call.

If my interp is wrong, then my post would then be:

I never seen a game end like that either, but darn good call.

The tennis kind, the track and field kind, the field hockey kind, and in the Far East...the sumo kind. :D

Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow are first rate announcers. They know baseball and they're not overtly "fanboys" - they tell the listener what is going on and why.

Some of the local announcers in other markets wouldn't know the Official Baseball Rules if it hit them upside the head.

You could be more upfront and tell us you're a softball umpire. (That's an assumption based on the majority of your posts.)

I would have thought this rule was the same in (most) softball codes.

(ALL)... Yes, it is.

Well,
 

I cannot think of one thing a baseball umpire can learn from a softball umpire.

T

Here's my take on all this. Two "officials" come in here not identifying themselves so we end up assuming that they are coaches or fans (past experience with posts like these two usually depict either fan or coach). You both claim not to be baseball guys but you don't have the decency to tell us that you are fellow officials.

Well in light of all that, let me invite the both of you to kiss my large, white buttocks! the both of you are low down sneaks and you probably suck as officials in your own sports.

Finis :mad:

It is.

It shouldn't matter what sports I officiate if I ask a question. I didn't come in here howling about rotten umps or anything the coaches or nutjob fans do...so why expect the same respect that I would give you if you came in to one of the boards I post on?

I honestly figured (and still dont see) why it matters.... By saying I'm not a baseball guy, I figured that somebody would pick up that I do other sports.. I wasn't trying to trick or deceive anyone, so trying to justify the rudeness by saying I didnt identify myself doesnt make sense.

As for my capabilities at the sports I DO officiate, I always leave that to others to decide.

not sure why this has gotten so ugly fellas... no need for it.

.............wtf is a crow hop?:D:

As I read it, you threw the first shot.

If I went to the sb board and read a similar OP, I don't think I'd ask what "wow" meant, but I'd quote the OP and say something like, "I officiate BB, not SB. In BB, the call that was made was right (or wrong, if appropriate) -- is it the same in SB?"

That would get me the answer you say you want.

I didn't throw as shot at ANYONE... WHY would I come in looking for info and do that? It's not what I do.

and ok..maybe I didnt elaborate enough when I asked Rita for thoughts... but that in no way justifies the reaction of some of the people that responded.

Ok,
 

So you didn't understand "WOW" --

How about this in regards to your posts:

WOBW.

T

Cricket; you forgot cricket. (Not to mention Australian Rules Football).;)

If waste is measured in BW then it is poor measurement.

DG,

Concur.

It is, however, a waste of storage capacity.

And time - which you could characterize as "personal bandwidth".

JM

This is very funny. The whole thread had me rolling on the floor.

1. I also get thrilled when a rotation works the way it should.

2. Why wouldn't a softball umpire understand?

Rita

Well played, lawump. Both sports are excellent. I'd never be an Aussie Rules umpire, since I hate running so much.

Having been to several AFL matches, those guys have some serious stamina.

Being a cricket umpire is a LOT less movement.