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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 12:33pm
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State associations will not involve themselves in directly saying that schools may absolutely not hire unregistered officials, because they know that puts them perilously close to being labeled an employer. The irrefutable fact is, I have no contract with the state association; therefore, I have no reason to care what they "require" or recommend.

If I think it's reasonable (e.g., a written report within 48 hours), I do it; if not, (e.g., calling the ADs, PU covers third on a naked triple, signing scorebooks) I don't.
Are you sure you don't have a contract with the state association? Isn't it called a license?
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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 01:26pm
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My seasons go a lot smoother because I ignore the stupid state "rules". The state association is not my employer, and I don't see any compelling reason to care about what they think I ought to do relative to a contract I have with a school to officiate baseball games at that school.

Schools are association members; officials are not. You don't have to dance to every tune it calls.
When I register with the state association, I'm agreeing to work the associated games in accordance with the association's rules. If you don't like the rules, you are free not to register with them, but you are also giving up working associated games.

The state association here is the regulator and while I don't know about Michigan, I do know Ohio will levy a significant fine if you ignore their regulations.
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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 01:40pm
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Are you sure you don't have a contract with the state association? Isn't it called a license?
Not in all states... but I just checked mine, and nothing on that license says I have to cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument.
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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 01:46pm
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Not in all states... but I just checked mine, and nothing on that license says I have to cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument.
He (radio blue) said he wouldn't even call.

If that's part of the procedure in a state, I'd call. but I also "cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument".

The two ideas can co-exist.
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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 08:49pm
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He (radio blue) said he wouldn't even call.

If that's part of the procedure in a state, I'd call. but I also "cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument".

The two ideas can co-exist.
I hope you mean you play a cowtow game with him, because I think it would be impossible for him to bait me, or you, into an argument. If I had to call him he would get yes/no answers to yes/no questions and not much else.

If it is not a yes/no question then ... "Uh, you want to rephrase that question so I can answer yes or no?"

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Old Thu May 19, 2011, 02:26pm
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He (radio blue) said he wouldn't even call.

If that's part of the procedure in a state, I'd call. but I also "cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument".

The two ideas can co-exist.
I don't recall ever saying I wouldn't even call.
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Old Thu May 19, 2011, 03:01pm
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I don't recall ever saying I wouldn't even call.
Maybe I have your post's confused with someone else's. If so, I apologize.
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Old Thu May 19, 2011, 09:42pm
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Maybe I have your post's confused with someone else's. If so, I apologize.
No sweat.
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Old Wed May 18, 2011, 02:36pm
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nothing on that license says I have to cowtow to rat AD's asking "non-germaine" questions trying to talk me into a corner or bait me into an argument.
It's on Missouri's. Word-for-word.
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