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UmpJM Mon May 09, 2011 09:08pm
DG,

I happened to be watching.

I'm guessing that it's because the F1 started in a windup and then switched to a set without first disengaging.

JM

UmpJM Mon May 09, 2011 09:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 757427)
Gardenhire dumped by West for balls and strikes.

Missed it but I think it was on a check-swing.
tjones,

It was over a "foul tip" call by West where the Twins batter was incredulous that West judged it had hit his bat.

JM

tjones1 Mon May 09, 2011 09:47pm
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Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 757429)
tjones,

It was over a "foul tip" call by West where the Twins batter was incredulous that West judged it had hit his bat.

JM
Oh ok, thanks JM.

BSUmp16 Mon May 09, 2011 10:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggravy (Post 756783)
no way. Francona was clearly the aggressor here. He was raging like a lunatic and cowboy joe put his hands on him long enough to just keep him from charging right through him. Gmafb.
+1

SanDiegoSteve Mon May 09, 2011 10:51pm
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Originally Posted by DG (Post 757422)
Angel just called another one from 1b position this time. Go look that video up, figure it out, and let me know what he was thinking. Uh, Joe West on the plate this time and Angel beat him to the call, if in fact, Joe would have called. I wonder, and doubt.
Yeah, they are a pair to draw to, for sure:p.

DG Tue May 10, 2011 07:38pm
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Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM) (Post 757428)
DG,

I happened to be watching.

I'm guessing that it's because the F1 started in a windup and then switched to a set without first disengaging.

JM
Interesting thought. I did not really think of him in the windup, his left foot was out front at about 45 degree angle and then he moved it foward and come set. Many ML pitchers do strange things and are not called balks because everyone recognize they do it all the time. Don't remember if he did, but it certainly would not fool a runner and I would not call a balk.

But you may be right.

Jake Tue May 10, 2011 08:38pm
I don't think his foot was not parallel to the rubber. It was pointing to the “library” area.
When he turned to go set he turned his pivot foot parallel with the rubber.


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