The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Justin Verlander balk. Justin Verlander balk.
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:05am
Archaic Power Monger
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
A TWP in MLB:

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Must C Curious: Verlander's inexplicable pickoff play - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:16am
Administrator
  
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,167

Welpe:

Thanks. I went over to the NFHS Forums right after I started this thread and there was a thread about the balk. It looked like something a 10 year old would do.

Friday afternoon, MTD, Jr., and I had a JV game and with the winnig run 3B and a second runner on 1B, the pitcher faked a throw to 1B from the Set position. Game over.

And yes, Junior did work then Plate like a good son.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:28am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The worlds of H.S., JUCCO, D3 - D1 baseball.
Posts: 61
Looks like the balk was delivering a pitch while not in contact with the rubber.

Seems like he was trying the jump move to first...and missed? Strange one.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:46am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,230
Let me throw a wild idea out there (which I know I'm probably going to be wrong) but if the batter is HBP, he would get first base and the runner would be forced to second. The batter and the runner advanced one base and therefore the balk would be ignored? What a wild play...

-Josh
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:50am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
  
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmara View Post
Let me throw a wild idea out there (which I know I'm probably going to be wrong) but if the batter is HBP, he would get first base and the runner would be forced to second. The batter and the runner advanced one base and therefore the balk would be ignored? What a wild play...

-Josh
If it was, indeed, a pitch.

In this case, it appears that the balk was for making a motion associated with a pitch and then throwing home. Keep the ball live, but since it's not a pitch it can't be a HBP.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:53am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
If it was, indeed, a pitch.

In this case, it appears that the balk was for making a motion associated with a pitch and then throwing home. Keep the ball live, but since it's not a pitch it can't be a HBP.
I knew I was missing something...Good catch!

-Josh
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:57am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 7,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
If it was, indeed, a pitch.

In this case, it appears that the balk was for making a motion associated with a pitch and then throwing home. Keep the ball live, but since it's not a pitch it can't be a HBP.
+1

That's how I read it, too. 8.05(g)
__________________
Cheers,
mb
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 12:49pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,716
Justin Verlander said that he attemped a move to first, had a "brain fart" and tried to cover it up by throwing home, hoping he could fool the umpires?!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 09:24am
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 727
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbyron View Post
+1

That's how I read it, too. 8.05(g)
However, this is the part that confuses me:

8.05 PENALTY: The ball is dead, and each runner shall advance one base without liability to be put out, unless the batter reaches first on a hit, an error, a base on balls, a hit batter, or otherwise, and all other runners advance at least one base, in which case the play proceeds without reference to the balk.
__________________
"Not all heroes have time to pose for sculptors...some still have papers to grade."
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 04:07pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Orange County NY
Posts: 698
Send a message via Yahoo to ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmara View Post
Let me throw a wild idea out there (which I know I'm probably going to be wrong) but if the batter is HBP, he would get first base and the runner would be forced to second. The batter and the runner advanced one base and therefore the balk would be ignored? What a wild play...

-Josh
In SOFTBALL - sure
__________________
www.chvbgsoinc.org
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 04:24pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE View Post
In SOFTBALL - sure
No.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 18, 2011, 08:16pm
Official Forum Member
  
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Orange County NY
Posts: 698
Send a message via Yahoo to ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder View Post
No.
Rule 6 sec 8E (ASA)
__________________
www.chvbgsoinc.org
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balk/No Balk: LHP fients pickoff the 3rd base Mike6221 Baseball 4 Sun Jun 07, 2009 09:47pm
RHP in stretch facing 1st base (balk or no balk) tem_blue Baseball 6 Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:00pm
Stealing Home, P in Windup, Balk or No Balk? johnnyg08 Baseball 2 Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:12am
Balk, Balk Yells the Coach!!! Gre144 Baseball 12 Tue Jul 10, 2001 07:32am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20pm.

The Official Forum - Archive - Top


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1