No thread about Bob Davidson ejecting a fan?
 

Man, you guys are slipping...

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First I've Seen of it
 

My son and I watched the highlights......quite entertaining! :rolleyes:

Maybe he needed more material for his book...:D

JJ

Davidson is a cartoon
 

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To be fair, do we know what he ejected him for?

Peace

Supposedly, a homophobic comment: Davidson says he ejected fan because of slur - Welcome to Charter.net

That's a tough sell in an MLB park, but if he heard it, and his bosses buy the report....

That is good enough for me if he ejected him on that basis. This is why I do not jump to conclusions on things like this because I would have done the very same thing if players in the game were called certain things. ;)

Peace

I live in WI and at Brewer games ushers don't to a very good job of policing drunk fans...they usually choose to ignore them.

Good for Davidson...I thought all three ejections he had were legit.

What are you saying? It is okay to say anything at a MLB park today?

quite hilarious. I saw the thread made national news on my yahoo the other day however did not watch it untill now. Thanks Brian for the humor.

on a different note, what do you guys think of the first play with Craig Counsell? Seems like the correct call as he appeared to not even attempt to touch the bag. His body was facing center field and looked a good 2-4 feet behind the base. If he had at least tried to stretch his arm out and try to touch the base then the call would not have been made. But he made no attempt.

Fair enough.

I was watching the game when it happened. The announcers were saying stupid stuff (these were Cardinal's announcers) ... but that's nothing new.

When it happened, I just figured the dude had a laser pointer or something like that...

A "homophobic slur"?

I am really afraid of those ******s? Or, did he call Davidson a ******?

If this is reported widly, I can guarandamntee you that Bob has heard only the beginning of this.

Doesn't a Major League umpire have anything better to do than listen to fan comments, get offended and then actually try to figure out who said it?

Davidson is a cartoon.

I'm sorry. I dont see anything here directing the umpire to police the language of the fans unless it is impeding the game in some manner. And please dont use the "(c) Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules." argument. What's next , the umpire dictating the price the vendor asks for peanuts?
Unless the language is in some way making it impossible to play or officiate the game, let the police and stadium authorities excercise crowd control, Umpires take care of what happens on the field.

What if the Security guard/Usher would have said to Bob: No. and walked away?

That would have been the most awesome scene ever...would he have dumped the security guard?

What if a cop refused to obey Blustering Bob? Have that cop arrested!

Bob is a cartoon.

Sometimes you have to do, what you have to do. At least Davidson has enough brass to take control of a situation. Something the stadium security didnt want to do.

Too bad about what the rules said or didn't say, he gets my vote for "Umpire of the week."There are way too many IDIOTS out there that think that just because they have first amendment rights, they can abuse anyone anytime and justify it with, "thats my constiutional right".

From a baseball fan who likes to sit and enjoy a game, I say,

GOOD JOB, DAVIDSON

So, you immediately side with Davidson-a guy who has been a buffoon for many years-over the Security Guards whose actual JOB it is to police the fans? They actually get paid to police the fans. They have training to police the fans. Bumbling Bob had no business, training or authority to stick his arrogant nose into the situation-if there even was a situation.

Could a Security Guard have overruled Jim Joyce on that play in the near perfect game? No, of course not.

When I heard "Umpire ejected a fan" I knew it was him before I saw the video. How many other folks here knew it was Davidson before we saw it for sure?

The park is named after a brand of beer.

I'm with you. I say let it go and let the game's natural elements police it.

The offended player and his teammates each have several bats at their disposal, and uncommon physical attributes. Let them take to the stands and police the situation. Let the umpires tend to on-field matters.

Sounds absurd, doesn't it? Well, it is.

There are seven words you can't say on television, and there are a few words you can't say at a ballgame and f@&&ot's one of them. If I were to hear a racial or ethnic or anti-Semitic or homophobic or similar slur from a spectator at any level, I would have them removed instantly, period. The game would not be respected if its participants weren't protected from that brand of inhumanity and I am there partly, if not chiefly to make sure that the game is respected. And it goes beyond the confines of respecting the mere rules. What makes the MLB setting any different?

I originally jumped to brand this latest act as another of Davidson's comic injections. I now view it as courageous and highly respectable. Yadier Molina is a good young man and a credit to the game. Davidson's policing of that outrageous incident involving him is commendable.

Nothing else occurred because of his actions. That's the point, here.

GOOD JOB, DAVIDSON, INDEED!!

You must be kidding. Miller Park Security are paid to look the other way when stuff like this happens. During Cubs/Brewers series I wouldn't bring my daughter to the ballpark the fans are so vulgar, drunk, and obnoxious.

I'm another one on board with what Davidson did. If comments like that ever came out of bleachers at a game I was working, I would stop the game and have game management remove the clown. Why should paying stupid money for a ticket give anyone the right to shout out bigoted remarks in the earshot of anyone?

Are you really that stupid...I like to enjoy the game without a drunk or drunks tossing 4 letter words around with my kids sitting there.

I don't know why they even pay to have ushers at Miller Park...I had an issue with a drunk a couple of months ago and we bypassed the usher and went right to the police. The police like tossing fans.

Never mind that he had no authority to do it.

So, what if the security guard refused? The security guard does not work for Bob Davidson. Is he going to eject him, also? If I was the guard, I would have laughed in his face.

So what if the security guard gets over there and the guy denies saying anything? What if the fans around him say they did not hear anything? Just how long away from his actual job should a Major League umpire take?

And we all knew which umpire it was before we saw the video.

I have seen Davidson scream profanities at players and coaches within earshot of the crowd. The levels that some umpires will go to back the actions of another umpire-no matter how absurd-are staggering.

And it is THEIR job to do so...unlike Davidson.

The same thing most of us would do if this happened at XYZ High School or Podunk Ball Park for the local American Legion game. Refuse to continue the game until the unruly fan was gone.

Do you really think an usher is going to refuse that request from an MLB umpire and still have his job?

Several times in the past fans have been removed by umpires in MLB games, usually when the fans are trying to incite players as was the case here. It is done to keep control of the game.

Wow, you can see I'm an aware, literate human being. Where do you get off? Your questioning my intelligence after missing my point almost completely shows a lack of intelligence on your part.

I don't condone drunken and profane fans and have historically taken action myself. The last time I had a beer at a ballgame was the 1985 NLCS. The last time I swore at a ballgame was never. And I don't stand for it in others.

If you were using an intelligent approach to reading and comprehending my comment, you would probably realize that I was pointing out that the Brewers' operation condones beer drinking and is reluctant to quell it and the resultant behavior.

Try a little harder, and keep your stupidity remarks confined to those who are stupid.

The umpire has total authority to manage the game. If the fan was causing a problem, then the Security folks should have handled it. Since they didn't, Davidson is totally within his right to have that fan removed.

Aren't we all getting a little tired of the jerks that learn the rules from idiots such as Tim McCarver, and think they can call balls and strikes from 200 ft away?

I do find that my tolerance for chirping decreases as the season nears the end and understand why Davidson would have this drunken, loud mouthed jerk ejected so that he could no longer interfere with the game.

Everything you write shows off your rather pedestrian intellect, yet you have the brass to imply that others are stupid.

Since we know that Davidson is a buffoon, isn't it barely possible that the only way that this fan was "interfering with the game" was the fact that Davidson got tired of hearing him? Davidson does not get to decide who can say what in the stands. Crowd managment is not his job.

Why is it ok for him to yell whatever foul and vile language he wants to yell in the earshot of fans? I have no idea if this fan yelled anything or not. If he did yell a supposed slur toward the homosexulas, then the stadium people probably should have dealt with it. If they did not, it is none of Davidson's business.

A lot more people are offended by the language that Davidson an many fans use than would be offended by the use of this supposed slur(if it is the f word that ends in a t, homosexuals use it all the time) Woul Davidson boot a fan for yelling Jesus Christ or God-D***? no way, no how...that stuff does not personally bother him, obviously.

I have been close enough to hear his vulgararity laced tirades at least four times over the years-he is a joke of an umpire and a disgusting person. For him to eject a guy for yelling f****t is like Ted Kennedy telling a guy not to slap his girlfriend.

I think we can all agree (perhaps some will not) that this was a special case that required special action, and that the slur went way beyond mere chirping. One shouldn't be reluctant to step in immediately in such a case, nor should he feel it is not within the scope of his duties to do so. I suppose there are umpires who lack the instincts and fortitude to step in, but most are instinctive and courageous.

Bob Davidson is now their example of how a slur is handled.

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Is drinking involved in the writing of the words in your post? If not, then there's no excuse.

You go ahead and allow fans to yell slurs to players at your games, and the civilized umpire fraternity will not.

A lot of people cuss, and NEVER make a racial or personal slur of any kind, nor make blasphemous comments. Profanity and blasphemy and cruel bigotry are exclusive of each other. Perhaps Davidson is deep enough to discern the difference.

Try harder.

And you'd likely get fired. Ballclubs, like any customer-driven business, don't like controversy (other than the 'staged' kind designed to get people's attention; this is not one of those).

For the first question: then he's a rat, like any player or coach. For the second: not likely to happen, especially since we're now getting the details of what the fan said.

Not so much, no. Some of us that umpire don't take the time to memorize the MLB umpire roster, and learn their habits. Nor, apparently, do all of us take the time to develop an axe to grind against specific MLB umpires.

I guess in this case, I'm backing the 'other umpire,' because I'm thinking, if these details are correct, this fan went beyond garden variety profanity. I know some feel that ANY profanity is A Bad Thing, and I respect that, even though I disagree. I feel there are shades of gray, if you will, but this fan crossed a line. So although I'm normally very happy to let those outside 'the fence' take care of that area, I don't really have a problem with Mr Davidson's actions.

I'm curious, though: you have your reasons/examples for thinking Bob Davidson's a joke, and your own that. But why, when I read your postings, do I get the feeling that you're giving WAY more respect to stadium security 'guards' than umpires? (Or, at least, the MLB guys you don't like?)

Real po-lice, I have no problem with. Stadium rental guys? Really? You think they're going to do their job? In general - and across all sports - those guys are the joke. Drunken idiot fans are left alone until they're so out of control, something has to be done. Why? Drunk fans buy $8 beers*, and lots of them.

*I don't drink that much, and don't feel like overpaying when I do, so I don't drink at a stadium. Substitute the actual ballpark price if I've underbid there.

Well, Kevin, we are not major league umpires. The highest level I ever worked was a few Minor League gamjes as a fill in many years ago. I worked some small college but the vast majority of what I have worked has been HS and below. The standards at a HS game are far different than at a major Lague game. First of all, I would hear someone being vulgar or profane and I would dump him.

Davidson wanted a show. If it was that important to dump this supposed roudy fan who supposedly was vulgar, then he could have handled it many ways...all of them except the one he used would not have drawn attention to himself. He wanted to draw attention to himself. Between innings instead of spreading his feathers like a peacock, he could have asked a cop in or by the dugout to dump the guy...he would not have had to point, even. This was all about Boorish Bob. He is a hack. I was actually with two umpire friends when we heard sbout this on the radio and we all knew it was this loser that had done it.

So, for those that back Davidosn on this-What should happen the next time ol' Bob lets loose on one of his vulgarity laced tirades?

I had 2 beers at Miller Park on Monday -- one right before first pitch and one in the middle of the 7th inning.

The first one was a "premium" large beer (Sam Adams Octoberfest in the TGI Friday's there) that was $8.25 and the second was a large MGD64 and that one was $7.75.

Your pricing was right on.

Mr. Washburn appears to have an axe to grind against most ML umpires, so I've just taken to ignoring him best I can.

@ HokieUmp: I'm curious, though: you have your reasons/examples for thinking Bob Davidson's a joke, and your own that. But why, when I read your postings, do I get the feeling that you're giving WAY more respect to stadium security 'guards' than umpires? (Or, at least, the MLB guys you don't like?)

I have no idea what the fan said. It might have been what Davidson said it was and it might not. If it is what the report was, then I think the Secuirty/cops should have removed him. The security guards and police might have done a good/decent or terrible job. A lot of times they do an awful job. My point is that it is none of Davidson's business what a fan is saying-this was not a high School game. There people there whose job it is to take care of this.

What about a fight in the stands? I think they almost always kick those folks out, right? what if they did not eject someone? Should Bob order that person gone, also?

Ignoring me would be the only way you would have that ridiculous and inaccurate impression.

Why not just come out and call him a liar and be done with it?

If the guy said it, you would think someone else would have heard it other than the guy with a mouth so foul that George Carlin once told him to cool it.

If that were the case, Tom Gamboa would have never been attacked.

The drunk was all over Molina, Davidson used a little preventative action to correct the problem.

So you are saying he is a liar then?

I said I have no idea what the guy said. How could I call Davidson a liar if I have no idea what the guy said?

All I know is if someone calls me, a player or uses such terms and they are dumb enough to have me hear it. I am stopping the game and I am removing that person from the game. That does not mean I will be the one doing the actual removing, but I am getting GM to get rid of that person and let it be known what was said. This is not negotiable with anyone. That is what I am going to do.

Peace

Jrutledge, that is absolutely fine in a High School game-I have done the very same thing a few times over the years. I even dumped a PA announcer once.

What Davidson did was ludicrous...and he did it with the purpose of being noticed. Worried about Yadier Molina climbing into the stands? Give me a break.

Well I do not know what MLB procedures and I honestly do not care what they are. Just saying what I am going to do. Procedures from MLB might be different and might had a different way to handle these situations. And if you have never seen anyone go up to the the stands before, you must have missed the Artest incident in Detroit and a later incident in Chicago with another player. Players have and will go up into the stands and confront fans. I would rather do something immediately than have a riot on my hands later.

Peace

Ron Artest had a beer thrown at him. There is an enormously high liklihood that guy would have been arrested immediately in that situation. If Miller Park and Major League Baseball say it is someone else's job to police drunkien fans...then it is someone else's job to police drunken fans.

Bob Davidson is not a hero...he is a buffoon. This was all about him performing for the camera.

I guess that settles it for me. You seem to have all the info on the situation.

Which part did I get wrong?

You are making assumptions I cannot make. I do not know Bob D or know his character. I have never met the man or know what makes him tick. I would never claim why someone is doing something from afar.

Also I have been in much smaller confines as an official and the people that are involved in security do not hear things they are sometimes closer than those on the court or field. And this is not about being drunk, this is about saying something inappropriate that is heard. He had a right to take care of this himself unless you know of some policy by MLB that says he cannot point out such action.

Peace

It's a small fraternity in the Bigs and if a fan is messing with a player, the umps are going to take care of it, if they have to. Molina is back there keeping Davidson safe and Davidson is going to take care of him over a dumbass jerk in the first row.

I didn't realize that JWWashburn was a scab. That explains alot of his posts.

He was going to do it between innings, but it threatened to get out of hand, so, like a man with a set of stones, he acted, so a man with a set of clubs wouldn't.

As you stated, you believe all swearing is the same, and everything Davidson does is objectionable. That reeks of bias, and puritanism, so with your inability to be unbiased, and your inability to digest adult language, perhaps baseball isn't the right game for you.

You are obviously giving this a cursory and narrow look. Try harder.

You highlighted the most naive and ridiculous of all of this guy's statements on this matter! Wow! The ever-present ballpark security guards--the best and the brightest! Yeah, they'll handle everything.

Naw, maybe this one's the most ridiculous.

Bara bing!

By both tradition and the written rule, an umpire's authority does not extend to fans unless they trespass on the field.

As one major leauge umpire said, "Only Bob."

MLB will either fine Davidson, or issue a statement supporting his action as warranted in an "unique" situation. If he is fined, it will most likely not be made public as is MLB's custom.

In either case, I'll wager this is his last season.

I'll take that wager. How about a beer at the place of your choosing?

1047 Main Street, Buffalo.

You're on.

Hold on here, I was born and raised in that town and most of my family still lives there. I'm betting that address is the Anchor Bar.

Count me in Baby, and I will buy the first round of wings and brew.

I was a regular in the late 60's and 70's.

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First off, no it is not okay, and that is why they have ushers and security people to deal with issues like this. My impression is it is their job to deal with this stuff, not an umpire trying to call a professional game.

Second, I am surprised that Mr. Davidson found the right person to eject, in a park with 10-20k people in it. If he got the right guy, great.

Third, weren't you taught not to get involved with policing the stands or fans unless there is a major problem in them? Normally IMO you should ignore the fans unless there is some very, very good reason to have to deal with them, esp, in an MLB park. In HS sports, you are always told to get a site manager or head coach to deal with the problem. NCAA Baseball is the same way.

Fourth, Mr. Davidson is really going against standard practice, and where do you draw the line? If some fan in the 4th row calls him #$$&##@&%@&**), does this ejection allow him to start throwing out paying customers? It's a slippery slope he is close to getting on, I hope he is careful.

That is all I am saying. And MLB brass have not liked things umpires have done in the past, and have fined umps and even suspended them. I could see Mr. Davidson getting fined for this act, if for no other reason than to make clear this is not an umpire's job, to deal with bad behavior off the field by fans, unless it affects play on the field.

Being a scab would be a step up in class for him.

The Unabomber "manifesto" makes more sense than the vast majority of his posts.

Silly
 

While I understand your point, kinda, as memory serves me, this guy was sitting at the end of one of the first rows in the lower deck near home plate and the dugout. It's not like he hollered from the upper deck and the ump had no idea who he was and had to search him out.....:rolleyes:

And the "fan's" reaction to his ejection easily proved he was the right guy to go.....and knew it.

Cool Hand Luke......
 

Prisoner: "Hey, Babalugats. We got a bet here." ;)

So if you hear a fan swearing at a player or questioning his sexaul preference you aren't going to do anything? When that player goes over to the fence or worse into the crowd hasn't that just disrupted your game? I am fine with taking care of it the way Bob Davidson did.

No, I'm not. Not unless they are yelling at kids.

The threat of a LONG suspension is sufficient deterrant for this type of behavior.

Then you are probably as overofficious as Bob Davidson.

Wow,

I did not realize that Davidson went into the stands, went "bill of the hat to bill of the hat" with the idiot , took two steps backwards and gave him the "heave ho"..................

If you actually take your blinders off and look at the action, he is imploring the security staff (grandpa) at the dugout to get moving so they could get the game going.

He then had to point out the drunkard to another highly trained "security professional" (grand daughter).

The staff had no clue what was going on. Heck, you can even see the fan in the front row by the dugout point the idiot out to grandpa.




Davidson handled the moron(s) (staff included) as he should have.

I'll be there in Dec. set up the time.

It threatened to get out of hand? What a load of crap. Davidson was really worried that Molina was going to commit a felony because some guy was yelling at him? That is beyond stupid. Davidson likes for people to notice him. That is why he goes out of his way to be noticed. He is one of the least respected umpires by players, managers, coaches and other umpires because he is such a joke. He does things that no other umpire does like his incessant balk calling. I have seen several times in the last few years where he did not even bother to shave before a game.

I think the fan should have been ejected if he was actually saying that stuff. I would be awfully surprised if it was really that bad because I think someone would have turned him in.

I never stated that all swearing is the same. I stated that I have heard Davidson in person on numerous occasions using language that is remarkably offensive to an awful lot of people. For this he has gotten no sanction whatsoever.

It's nice that the moderators allow personal attacks of members on the forum.

I am not sure what you mean by the term scab, realistic. Furthermore, it has nothing to do with the discussion of Davidson booting a fan.

I do not believe I have ever had the honor of you personally attacking me, Mr Tyler. I consider this validation that my posts are coherent and my opinions correct.

With you on the other side, I can be assured I am on the right track.

Thank you for you guidance.

This is what I am referring to when I mentioned being a scab. Also I was not attacking you, I was stating a point. You have some crazy idea's IMO but when I saw you mentioning being a fill in it made alot of those comments that you make understandable.

From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$; on that rationale, Davidson has a dog in that hunt. Since you're all over him about this, I can only imagine your reaction if Molina had gone off: "Davidson's a joke - he can't keep control of the field and players!" Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Apples v Oranges.

How is he going to do that from the other side of the backstop?

Those are Mighty big assumptions you make there, Mr Hoffa. They also have nothing to do with Mr. Davidson.

Originally Posted by HokieUmp
From the other reports I've read, Molina was ready to go all Ron Artest/Ty Cobb on that dude's a$$;


Excellent question.

So, Davidson is supposed to stick his nose where it belongs because Molina was about to commit a felony? That makes no sense. He never could have gotten to him and would have stopped had he tried. If some millionaire cannot take a moron yelling at him, that is his problem...not the umpire.

Except that it isn't.

Millions or not, every person has a breaking point. Having a lot of money doesn't make one immune.

I also find it interesting how this would be received much differently in another sport. I'm mainly speaking of basketball since in football, there's usually a buffer zone between the fans and the players/officials.

If this was done in an NBA game, then this would be a footnote in the game notes. In fact, this happened in a regular season game this past year in Portland where a couple was ejected from the game. Now I don't know the procedure for MLB. I feel the powers that be would have a hard time punishing Bob Davidson for being proactive here where game management wasn't. They'd rather have a few people make a fuss about an umpire taking care of business rather than one of their players going into the stands to take care of business.

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
nor should he feel it is not within the scope of his duties to do so.

mbcrowder: Except that it isn't.

Why quibble over the minor details that the umpire has no authority, no training and no business doing this?

Hmmm....isn't that what Davidson did? :rolleyes:

JJ

Question: If Davidson acted beyond his authority, wouldn't MLB discipline him somehow? If they don't discipline him, wouldn't that mean it is within his authority?

I work HS hoops, and he wouldn't have made it though my game either. Buying a ticket doesn't give someone a license to be a jerk; and being a millionaire doesn't mean a player should have to deal with that BS from a drunk fan who obviously still has no clue what's appropriate and what isn't.

So are the ones in Colorado and St. Louis. What's your point?

Just curious as to what capacity you acted as a MiBL "fill in"? Usually, the only senario where an umpire, who is primarily a HS guy with small college experience, had that opportunity to "fill in" was as a scab (someone who crosses the picket line of striking union workers).

Please...
 

:rolleyes:Don't try and play the "I don't know card". You have gone on record in the past defending the scab umpires that crossed the picket lines during the MiLB strike a few years ago. You've also made mention that it was the unions that caused the collapse of the auto making industry in Detroit, which isn't even remotely true.

It would seem to me you are very anti-union and think "scabbing" is perfectly alright in your book. You must be a very far to right conservative Republican to make these outlandish statements.

FWIW, I don't think Davidson has the authority to really have someone removed from the stadium. However, that doesn't give the fan the right to make a public nuisance of themselves. I'm sure stadium police and security had the final say whether said fan is removed or not. Davidson only did what by pointing the fan out, the many others around the guy would have probably done later.

Nope, no picket lines.

I decided to do a few MiLB games when asked because the MiLB guys decided to come compete with me for HS Games. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

Ooops!
 

UTT be a little careful . . . here in Portland last summer we had one of our better college umpires work more than 25 games in the PCL . . . and that's AAA level baseball.

I also know of a few guys that post here that are in towns with AA teams and they have also been asked to fill in.

I filled in in the California Long A in the '80s and did 25 games.

ALTHOUGH Washburn shows his true colors and admits to scabbing games in his latest post.

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That's right Tim. I showed my true colors by working games that no one else wanted to work. I showed my true colors by saying that I did something that was the 100% right thing to do.

You show your true colors by calling me a name like a school child instead of actually having the discussion. The same reason that union thugs want Card Check...to force people to do what they want instead of persuading them with logic and reason-because theere is no logic and reason to your case.

You repeatedly called Davidson a cartoon but when someone calls you a name, they're like a school child.

It doesn't take much to get that point.

Oh, you're just being contentious. What a surprise.

Keeping a player or players from enforcing it themselves is most definitely the umpire's responsibility once the security force failed to address it. Davidson did not involve himself with the fan in any way. He engaged an on-field figure acting as a security person and directed him to solve what could soon be a major problem.

So if a slur is hurled at a player in a game you are running, you just wish he would stop or go away, and you go about your business? Well, you just keep doing it that way, and we'll keep doing what's right in the rare case that a fan hurls a slur at someone.

I understand what you are saying and know that there are fill ins. However, they are not low level college and HS umpires.

Just so I am not misunderstood, I am not basing my prediction of Davidson's future on tis event, but rather the demonstrated "old man" gait he has developed (as evidenced in the discussed video), his complaints of pain and comments from some MLB umpires that he may be one of an anticpated three to four retirees.

And he might get another chance in 2012. Better keep his gear warm.

Rather than figure out how to get on the "fill in list" (by being an exceptional local amateur umpire) to work games when umpires are sick or injured in the leagues in their area, many choose to take advantage of a situation that should be taken care of by the umpires and their employer without interference. They can use players and coaches and managers to work the games while the umpires and management negotiate a settlement that is fair to both sides or just wait for a settlement period.

The poor MiLB guys make (per their website) $85-$110 per game in AAA, 75-85 in AA, and 65-75 in A ball and 60-65 in short A.
The major D1 Conferences pay $350 for a Conference game, a car for the CC, plus free room and 50 per diem for meals and free airfare if you live over the driving mileage limit.

Since JWW is the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone else is terrible, I have trouble wondering why he has any trouble getting the absolute highest level of amateur baseball, with a schedule of the top amateur games all over this country where he can continually showcase all his knowledge and expertise as an amateur umpire. With the greatest amateur schedule with the highest level of amateur ball around, I just don't understand how he has time to fit in any other games whatsoever, no matter the level involved.

OK fair enough. But it would be good to get together and have a beer anyway.

You are basing your opinion of me on....well, not on anything I have said or implied. If you think I have a too high opition of myself as an umpire, you have just made that up. I have not once said or implied anything like that. I am an above average High School umpire who has tries to dress and act professionally and have a good knowledge of the rules. I have worked with lots of guys a lot better than me and I have always tried to learn from them.

My point about guys like Davidson is that he embarrasses all of us with his antics. It is the knuckleheaded umpires like him who get all of the attention. I have no respect for guys like him, always looking for ways to get attention-good grief, buy a Mach 5 and shave, Bob!

As for serving as a fill-in umpire in the MiLB in 2012...no way. My job and my lower back would make that impossible.

Unions think they should get to make the rules and we should all just obey their sets of standards without question. If the MiLB umpires vow to do no other work for any other employer during their strike, I could see honoring their strike. If they, however, work any job anywhere then, the games are fair game. If an MiLB guy gets a job at a gas station, then someone cannot...but, then he wants to demand that no one go work the baseball games that he refused to work? Union members live in a dreamland.

You're right about the fill-ins. I think it is safe to say that many of the higher levels umpires more than likely refused to cross the picket line when asked. Therefore, they were forced to make do with the few low rent scumbags they could scrounge up.

Hell, they probably hired them over the phone.

Being called that by you is like manna from heaven. You have made my day, Mr. Tyler...Ice cream with the kids and another insult by you...I know I am living right. You are like Ted Kennedy or the Teacher's Union...If I am on the other side, I could not possibly be wrong.

Is this all?
 

Ok, if this is what the guy said...I take back everything I said about Davidson-because i was WAY too light on him.

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This ranks as obnoxious but, good grief...no way was Molina going to climb into the stands over this.

Davidson says 10 times worse than this ordering breakfast.

And you know this...how?

Yes, MLB will discipline him if the supervisor judges his way of handling it to be way off.

Whatever measures MLB takes are almost certain NOT to be made public, however, so it won't settle any questions here.

Somehow you missed this little blurb at the end of the story...

"Major League Baseball reviewed what happened and determined the umpire followed the proper protocol by first alerting a stadium usher. A spokesperson said it is “not unprecedented” for an umpire to order a fan ejection.".