Dodgers/Padres...Rule 8.06

[johnnyg08]

Here's the entire MLBUM interp.

I'll take some time to type out what's written in the MLBUM to alleviate any potential confusion.

7.12 Trips to the Mound

A second trip to the mound to remove the pitcher in the same inning by a manager or coach will cause that pitcher's removal from the game.

The manager or coach is prohibited from making a second visit to the mound while the same hitter is at bat, but if a pinch hitter is substituted for this batter, the manager or coach may then make a second visit to the mound, but must then remove the pitcher.

For the purpose of this rule, a batter's time at bat begins the moment the previous batter is put out or becomes a base runner

A trip to the mound begins when the manager or coach crosses the foul line. The trip ends when the manager or coach leaves the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitcher's rubber.

A consequence of the rule regarding trips to the mound is that once a manager or coach has completed a trip to the mound, the pitcher then pitching must continue pitching to the batter then at bat (or retire the side) unless a pinch hitter is substituted or unless one of the following situations applies:

a. If a game becomes suspended during a manager's or coach's trip to the mound (or after the trip but while the same batter is still at bat), a new pitcher may be substituted when the game is later resumed.

b. If a rain delay occurs during a manager's or coach's trip to the mound (or after the trip but while the same batter is still at bat), a new pitcher may be substituted when the game is resumed following the rain delay.

[JaxRolo]

The rule says manager is removed from the game as is the pitcher.

Not ejected from the game. There is a difference.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

The rule says manager is removed from the game as is the pitcher.

Not ejected from the game. There is a difference.

Oh? Please explain the difference and your rules basis for thinking that there is one.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

The rule says manager is removed from the game as is the pitcher.

I just typed the interp word-for-word from MLBUM, I didn't see anything about the manager being removed from the game. Do you have a different interp?

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I just typed the interp word-for-word from MLBUM, I didn't see anything about the manager being removed from the game. Do you have a different interp?

Right from MLB.com OBR Page 83:

the manager shall be removed from the game and the pitcher required to pitch to the batter until he is retired or gets on base. After the batter is retired, or becomes a base runner, then this pitcher must be removed from the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Right from MLB.com OBR Page 83:

the manager shall be removed from the game and the pitcher required to pitch to the batter until he is retired or gets on base. After the batter is retired, or becomes a base runner, then this pitcher must be removed from the game.

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

Exactly. With players the difference is clear, since they're playing: they can be "removed" from the game by substitution or by ejection.

There's no procedure comparable to substitution for coaches or managers. That leaves ejection.

[RogersUmp]

When the rule states anyone is to be removed from the game (not by manager's choice) that is the same as ejection. Forced is another appropriate verb here. Maybe ejection only means physically ejected into the air landing somewhere out of the field of play?

[AAUA96]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

The pitcher that is "removed" may stay in the dug out for the rest of the game. A pitcher that is "ejected" may not be in the dug out.

Doesn't happen that often - but it did to me once.

Walt

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by AAUA96

The pitcher that is "removed" may stay in the dug out for the rest of the game. A pitcher that is "ejected" may not be in the dug out.

Doesn't happen that often - but it did to me once.

Walt

Under which rule enforced in what league?

You do understand that we are discussing a Major League situation, right?