Dodgers/Padres...Rule 8.06

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

The rule says manager is removed from the game as is the pitcher.

Not ejected from the game. There is a difference.

Oh? Please explain the difference and your rules basis for thinking that there is one.

[MrUmpire]

Dodgers/Padres...Rule 8.06

Originally Posted by rbmartin

I wasn't watching live

Obviously. It was Dodgers/Giants

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

The rule says manager is removed from the game as is the pitcher.

I just typed the interp word-for-word from MLBUM, I didn't see anything about the manager being removed from the game. Do you have a different interp?

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I just typed the interp word-for-word from MLBUM, I didn't see anything about the manager being removed from the game. Do you have a different interp?

Right from MLB.com OBR Page 83:

the manager shall be removed from the game and the pitcher required to pitch to the batter until he is retired or gets on base. After the batter is retired, or becomes a base runner, then this pitcher must be removed from the game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

Right from MLB.com OBR Page 83:

the manager shall be removed from the game and the pitcher required to pitch to the batter until he is retired or gets on base. After the batter is retired, or becomes a base runner, then this pitcher must be removed from the game.

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

Exactly. With players the difference is clear, since they're playing: they can be "removed" from the game by substitution or by ejection.

There's no procedure comparable to substitution for coaches or managers. That leaves ejection.

[RogersUmp]

When the rule states anyone is to be removed from the game (not by manager's choice) that is the same as ejection. Forced is another appropriate verb here. Maybe ejection only means physically ejected into the air landing somewhere out of the field of play?

[JaxRolo]

Originally Posted by RogersUmp

When the rule states anyone is to be removed from the game (not by manager's choice) that is the same as ejection. Forced is another appropriate verb here. Maybe ejection only means physically ejected into the air landing somewhere out of the field of play?

I disagree.

you can remove a coach by restricting him to the dugout. He can't comeback on the field for any reason except for an injury.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I disagree.

you can remove a coach by restricting him to the dugout. He can't comeback on the field for any reason except for an injury.

OK but this game wasn't played under Fed rules.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I disagree.

you can remove a coach by restricting him to the dugout. He can't comeback on the field for any reason except for an injury.

When have you ever seen a major league manager restricted to the dugout? Remember, we are speaking of OBR, rules written and owned by Major League Baseball.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by JaxRolo

I disagree.

you can remove a coach by restricting him to the dugout. He can't comeback on the field for any reason except for an injury.

Jax,

Please tell me you're kidding.

JM

[johnnyg08]

They should be consistent though and use the term "eject" instead of "remove" that can have several meanings...in fact the MLBUM term uses remove, not eject too.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Jax,

Please tell me you're kidding.

JM

He's not kidding, though he might be a troll.

He's also wrong. Restricting a coach to the dugout is NOT removing him from the game, since he can continue to perform most coaching functions from there.

[AAUA96]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

We understand the rule says "removed." The question is, how is this different from "ejected?"

The pitcher that is "removed" may stay in the dug out for the rest of the game. A pitcher that is "ejected" may not be in the dug out.

Doesn't happen that often - but it did to me once.

Walt

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by AAUA96

The pitcher that is "removed" may stay in the dug out for the rest of the game. A pitcher that is "ejected" may not be in the dug out.

Doesn't happen that often - but it did to me once.

Walt

Under which rule enforced in what league?

You do understand that we are discussing a Major League situation, right?