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Kevin Finnerty Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:04am
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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 685775)
Lets see here , the manager decided he should come out of the dugout to try and show up U1.

Was it Fair or Foul?

I think when an official is able to put his self-ego aside and correctly make a ruling by the book rather than some preconceived macho idea of how he is being perceived, then he truly understands what he is out there for.

If the ball was truly fair, and it could be confirmed, then this was the right call for this situation.
Frame that!!

Great stuff.

RadioBlue Mon Jul 19, 2010 01:22pm
I don't have a rulebook in front of me, but most codes have some sort of verbage that states runners may be placed on bases, outs may be assessed or erased which put a team at a disadvantage in the event an umpires' decision is changed.

JRutledge Mon Jul 19, 2010 02:40pm
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Originally Posted by RadioBlue (Post 685961)
I don't have a rulebook in front of me, but most codes have some sort of verbage that states runners may be placed on bases, outs may be assessed or erased which put a team at a disadvantage in the event an umpires' decision is changed.
We are not talking about a situation where any change is made, we are talking about a play that stops everything like a foul call. And at least the NF says that once a ball is called foul, you cannot take it back. I cannot off the bat speak for the other codes at this time. And other than this situation I have never heard anyone consider this kind of play to be up for debate even if it was wrong. This takes that power too far in my opinion.

Peace

MD Longhorn Mon Jul 19, 2010 03:57pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 685806)
This is the reason baseball is going to the dogs. This is ridiculousness to make this call and arbitrarily decide that a runner would had been. What do they do if there were runners on base, just decide who what have been there on a missed call. This has nothing to do with ego, this has to do with common sense. Because who is to say the runner would not have made third.

Peace
Or tried for third and failed... or stumbled rounding first and got stuck there - or overslid 2nd. This "reversal" has horrid written all over it - and 100% benefits the offense, giving them a base with no risk involved. Awful.

Sven K Tue Jul 20, 2010 05:08pm
Maybe the crew would rather be torched in this forum than on SportsCenter.


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