well, THERE's a new one

[txump81]

At least these guys got it right.

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[Kevin Finnerty]

What guys and what did they get right? Joe West's a disgrace? Well, maybe they got that right.

[txump81]

The umpires got the call right by calling the runner out as his foot did not remain in contact with the base. It remained in contact with the fielder's foot. See the post by BK47.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

What guys and what did they get right? Joe West's a disgrace? Well, maybe they got that right.

I know you don't care for him, but what do you think he did wrong here?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

What guys and what did they get right? Joe West's a disgrace? Well, maybe they got that right.

I guess I'm a disgrace, too. I'd toss someone for throwing his helmet like that in any game I work.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Nothing specific, just Joe West's a disgrace to umpiring. They got that right.

I love the game and I love umpiring and I respect both immensely. So how could I possibly approve of Joe West and the manner in which he defames both the game and the umpiring profession?

If he is not a disgrace to umpiring, I guess I am missing something. Try to list some of the ways that he is not a disgrace to umpiring, rather than condemn me for bringing it up, or assume I am biased against the guy personally, which I am not. As a person, I both liked and spent time with the guy in past years. But this is now, and he is now a disgrace to umpiring. There are literally hundreds of qualified umpires dreaming of a shot at a spot he is filling in a way that is a colossal embarrassment to the profession.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Seriously, can anyone please list the ways that Joe West is not a disgrace to the umpiring profession. Everyone who defends his umpiring does so with an emptiness that is quite glaring.

I'm not even asking to list glowing attributes, just some things that make him less than a disgrace as an umpire.

[Welpe]

I asked about his handling this situation, not his entire body of work.

[Kevin Finnerty]

It's not about this call, okay? Where do you guys get this stuff? Where in anything I wrote did you get that I was blasting him for this specific call, and not his general game?

Here are my exact words:

Nothing specific, just Joe West's a disgrace to umpiring. They got that right.

AND,

I love the game and I love umpiring and I respect both immensely. So how could I possibly approve of Joe West and the manner in which he defames both the game and the umpiring profession?

If he is not a disgrace to umpiring, I guess I am missing something. Try to list some of the ways that he is not a disgrace to umpiring, rather than condemn me for bringing it up, or assume I am biased against the guy personally, which I am not. As a person, I both liked and spent time with the guy in past years. But this is now, and he is now a disgrace to umpiring. There are literally hundreds of qualified umpires dreaming of a shot at a spot he is filling in a way that is a colossal embarrassment to the profession.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Seriously, can anyone please list the ways that Joe West is not a disgrace to the umpiring profession.

Not to defend Joe West, but that statement seems bass-ackwards. If you think he's a disgrace to the umpiring profession, then it seems to me that you should list the ways that he is rather than challenging others to list the ways that he is not.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by celebur

not to defend joe west, but that statement seems bass-ackwards. If you think he's a disgrace to the umpiring profession, then it seems to me that you should list the ways that he is rather than challenging others to list the ways that he is not.

+1

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Seriously, can anyone please list the ways that Joe West is not a disgrace to the umpiring profession. Everyone who defends his umpiring does so with an emptiness that is quite glaring.

I'm not even asking to list glowing attributes, just some things that make him less than a disgrace as an umpire.

1. He's never said that the hands are part of the bat.
2.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by LMan

1. He's never said that the hands are part of the bat.

2. He has never ruled a player out for abandonment.