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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 10:25am
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A flip is deliberate - a voluntary release - thus a valid catch.
Maybe in LL it is, Rich, but in "big boy ball" if you flip it out to transfer it, you better control it! If you flip it and it falls to the ground, it is not a catch. That said, if an infielder makes a catch for the 3rd out and flips the ball out of his glove to the mound, that is still a catch.
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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 10:39am
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Chris Young released a ball from his glove to his hand below after a catch last Friday night, and dropped it at his feet, after missing his hand. Jason Werth circled the bases while Upton messed around, thinking he had a catch.

Ruling: No catch.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7620299

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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 02:04pm
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Kevin, thanks for posting the video link. Personally, I think the call could have gone either way.
If this was a second baseman working the front end of a double play, would anyone call the runner safe at second?

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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 08:27pm
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On the transfer. Jeez.
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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 09:31pm
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Kevin, thanks for posting the video link. Personally, I think the call could have gone either way.
If this was a second baseman working the front end of a double play, would anyone call the runner safe at second?

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There is a big difference between a ball falling straight down, as opposed to coming out to the side on the front end of a double play. Dropping the ball indicates dropping the ball.......no control. I would certainly call the runner safe in your example. To the side, sure; on the transfer.
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Old Sun May 02, 2010, 07:03pm
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Chris Young released a ball from his glove to his hand below after a catch last Friday night, and dropped it at his feet, after missing his hand. Jason Werth circled the bases while Upton messed around, thinking he had a catch.

Ruling: No catch.

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | PHI@ARI: Werth scores on Young's four-base error - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
Again, particularly funny when the commentator pronounces a catch the moment the ball goes into the glove. What a boob.
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Old Sun May 02, 2010, 07:18pm
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Again, particularly funny when the commentator pronounces a catch the moment the ball goes into the glove. What a boob.
This is the perfect example as to why you do not listen to commentators about rules, much less anything else for that matter.

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Old Fri Apr 30, 2010, 09:18pm
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Maybe in LL it is, Rich, but in "big boy ball" if you flip it out to transfer it, you better control it! If you flip it and it falls to the ground, it is not a catch.
You are changing the rule from voluntary release to transfer with control.
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