Balk?

[zm1283]

FED rules. F1 in the stretch. After he comes set, he turns his pivot foot (right foot in this case) just as he starts his pitching motion. It is basically a pivot where his heel goes toward home plate but the front of his foot stays in contact with the pitcher's plate. He doesn't stop after the pivot. That's about the best I can describe it. Do you have a balk here?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by zm1283

FED rules. F1 in the stretch. After he comes set, he turns his pivot foot (right foot in this case) just as he starts his pitching motion. It is basically a pivot where his heel goes toward home plate but the front of his foot stays in contact with the pitcher's plate. He doesn't stop after the pivot. That's about the best I can describe it. Do you have a balk here?

How deos he pitch with his heel pointed at home?

I don't have a balk -- there aren't many restrictions on the pivot foot once the pitching motion starts.

[jicecone]

It may just be that he is pitching (or pushing) more off the ball of his foot. Sounds a little different, but as Bob said, certainally no balk.

[David Emerling]

Originally Posted by zm1283

FED rules. F1 in the stretch. After he comes set, he turns his pivot foot (right foot in this case) just as he starts his pitching motion. It is basically a pivot where his heel goes toward home plate but the front of his foot stays in contact with the pitcher's plate. He doesn't stop after the pivot. That's about the best I can describe it. Do you have a balk here?

As long as it appears to be part of his pitching motion, I would let that go. Also, he still must maintain contact with the rubber while doing this odd maneuver with his pivot foot.

On the other hand, if this is something he does just PRIOR to the commencement of pitching motion, I would balk it.

Here's why: Runners are often taught to key on a right-hander's pivot foot as an indication that he is beginning a pickoff move toward 1st. And there's a good reason for that. It is impossible for a right-hander to throw to 1st without FIRST re-orienting his pivot foot - unless he is Gumby.

Any pre-movement of that pivot foot could cause runners to start leaning back toward the bag, thinking it was the prelude of a pickoff attempt. The pitcher would be gaining an advantage.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[zm1283]

Bob - It is very odd looking. His pivot foot pivots and his heel moves toward home plate as his leg kick is beginning.

David - It is part of his pitching motion, and he does keep in contact with the rubber. I was sure it was not a balk when he went to the plate. He never did it when he picked to first, but did do it when he picked to second with the inside or "wheel" move, but he still gained distance and direction with his non-pivot foot. Would you guys balk it when he picks to second?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Bob - It is very odd looking. His pivot foot pivots and his heel moves toward home plate as his leg kick is beginning.

David - It is part of his pitching motion, and he does keep in contact with the rubber. I was sure it was not a balk when he went to the plate. He never did it when he picked to first, but did do it when he picked to second with the inside or "wheel" move, but he still gained distance and direction with his non-pivot foot. Would you guys balk it when he picks to second?

Why? What provision of the balk rule does it violate?

The old adage "if it looks weird, it's a balk" is for Smittys and others who like to make up their own rules.