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jwwashburn · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 05, 2009, 08:44pm

The photo is clickable. It is worth it to hear Vin's call of this toward the end.

DG · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 05, 2009, 08:53pm

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Originally Posted by jwwashburn

The photo is clickable. It is worth it to hear Vin's call of this toward the end.

Anyone wear a throat protector like Eddings? Don't think I have seen this.

SanDiegoSteve · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 06, 2009, 12:58pm

I would prefer to get hit in the throat than wear a dangler the way he does. That looks like what the coach said to Eddings. Those two strike calls were pretty bad, and I don't know about running a coach for saying "that's bullsh*t" either. Pretty quick on the trigger, considering he kicked the crap out of both calls. My fuse gets longer, not shorter, when I know I've screwed up that badly.

TussAgee11 · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 06, 2009, 05:06pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I would prefer to get hit in the throat than wear a dangler the way he does. That looks like what the coach said to Eddings. Those two strike calls were pretty bad, and I don't know about running a coach for saying "that's bullsh*t" either. Pretty quick on the trigger, considering he kicked the crap out of both calls. My fuse gets longer, not shorter, when I know I've screwed up that badly.

Steve, c'mon. Its auto EJ at any amateur level. You allow that crap, even if you missed it, they see that and feed off it. Next time a close one happens that you got right and they give it to you, and now you're gonna toss? To them, you are never right. So anytime they say something that should get them run, it should get them run. Why make it more complicated. There is a way to give more rope, this isn't one of them.

Squash them like f****** bugs.

SanDiegoSteve · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 06, 2009, 07:05pm

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Steve, c'mon. Its auto EJ at any amateur level. You allow that crap, even if you missed it, they see that and feed off it. Next time a close one happens that you got right and they give it to you, and now you're gonna toss? To them, you are never right. So anytime they say something that should get them run, it should get them run. Why make it more complicated. There is a way to give more rope, this isn't one of them.

Squash them like f****** bugs.

Really? Throw someone out from the dugout for merely saying "That's bullsh*t" in the adult league I work in and every game will be a forfeit because you will have ejected everyone, and pretty soon you will be sitting home instead of umpiring. The coach didn't say, "You're bullsh*t." He said "That's." Big difference. You don't eject for saying the word "bullshi*t," because it's not offensive, it's merely juvenile. In kiddie ball, yes. With shaving age players, no.

I've done this job quite adequately for nearly a quarter of a century, and would never dream of kicking an adult player out for merely saying those words in an impersonal manner. Get personal, on the other hand....well, you know.

RPatrino · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Oct 06, 2009, 07:35pm

In school ball, I would agree about an instant EJ. One of the criteria I use is what would I do if that was said in the classroom. The ball field is an extension of the classroom and is a learning environment, so I expect (with some leeway for the competetive environment) behavior that respects that.

However, like Steve opined, in adult or some higher level of travel ball I would be inclined to ignore it, particularly since it came from the bench.

On the throat protector thing, does he have that hooked in the wrong spot?

Kevin Finnerty · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 07, 2009, 09:51am

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Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Steve, c'mon. Its auto EJ at any amateur level. You allow that crap, even if you missed it, they see that and feed off it. Next time a close one happens that you got right and they give it to you, and now you're gonna toss? To them, you are never right. So anytime they say something that should get them run, it should get them run. Why make it more complicated. There is a way to give more rope, this isn't one of them.

Squash them like f****** bugs.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Really? Throw someone out from the dugout for merely saying "That's bullsh*t" in the adult league I work in and every game will be a forfeit because you will have ejected everyone, and pretty soon you will be sitting home instead of umpiring.

This essentially says it all.

Kevin Finnerty · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 07, 2009, 10:39pm

By most accounts, Roget was an extremely annoying guy to know.

Example:

You: "Goodbye, Roget."

Roget: "Goodbye, farewell, ciao, cheerio, adieu, adios, so long, god-speed, bye-bye, ta-ta, toodle-do ... "

You: "SHUT THE F*** UP!"