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Old Wed Sep 09, 2009, 09:06am
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Sorry, but if [fill in name] were Commissioner of Baseball, there would have never been a strike-related cancellation of the World Series. If Fay Vincent were still commissioner back then, there would have been a clean-up of the steroid mess before it ever truly was a mess.

Bud Selig is an owner. In the real world, you don't have an owner in charge of keeping owners in line. The commissioner's office was set up with something else in mind: the good of the game.
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Old Thu Sep 10, 2009, 11:22pm
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That's not true

Not everyone would have said anything back then. Its a lot different now that the science GUYS plead no contest to fixing cocktails which did not show up in urine test. This can be traced back to 1960s Olympic East German women. Yeah people noticed the ACNE, but no one did anything about the extra doses of test-toss-terr-ones that Helga gained "pumping" iron.

Back in the 1980s, some top prospect (not Daryl Strawberry) from FL was in the SI mag and it explicitly stated the kid was juicing on Andro, creatin and other GNC supplements (wasn't Mark McGuire either). A lot of kids playing all kinds of HS sports were juiced in the 80's. None of it is sold in GNC today.

Recently some 16 year old kid with a 96mph rising fastball made the news about leaving high school for JC 2 years early. I guess he's a natural. I think his dad may have been "juiced" the night of pro-creation. Yeah that explains it {satire}.

More OBTW, the naturals with that kind of talent may be about 1 in 300 million 18 year old kids. I still believe 2 of these creatures can throw a 100+ mph, wet seam, rough raised leather {friction}cut groove, rising fastball with a pronounced flat spot. If that ain't true, why does MLB toss 'em out after every 6 tosses? Explain the physics!
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Old Fri Sep 11, 2009, 12:05am
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As a point of fact, Commissioner Fay Vincent issued an announcement that was posted in every major league clubhouse reminding major league players that any violation of the controlled substances act was forbidden, including anabolic steroids and other performance enhancing substances. In other words, steroids have been against the major league rules since 1992.

Not long after making an issue of ridding the game of PEDs, Vincent was railroaded out of office, and an owner--Selig--was quietly installed on an interim basis. (We're still waiting for him to be replaced with a legitimate commissioner.) With Fay Vincent in charge, there would have been no steroid scandal. And we certainly wouldn't still be dealing with its effects at this late date.

Another point of fact: Bud Selig secured a no-interest $5 million loan from Minnesota Twins owner Carl Pohlad. Then, Selig attempted contraction of two franchises: Minnesota and Montreal. By contracting the Minnesota franchise, Selig's buddy Pohlad stood to pocket a $185 million fee from MLB, which would have been a minimum of $75 million more than his franchise was worth at the time. So Selig attempted to hand a guy $75 extra million while he had an outstanding $5 million loan with the guy.

How is this guy allowed to infect our game? Stuff like that lands guys in prison camps.

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