Japanese mizuno mask for sale

[turnit]

Pretty sure I know GDubs, pretty sure he's legit, pretty sure I wouldn't buy the mask.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by turnit

Pretty sure I know GDubs, pretty sure he's legit, pretty sure I wouldn't buy the mask.

If you know gdubs, then you know how to get the same mask for a little more than a fourth of his "starting bid."

[INUmp]

anyone that spent 1,000 dollars on this mask is probably not real bright.

I bought mine for 100 US dollars in 2005 and gave it to a buddy two years ago to start using.

idk if this is legit or not, but it's a lot of money to just sent to someone random. Also odd that, if I recall correctly "gdubbs" used to post strictly in all caps on the amlu and now has found grammar and lower case typing as well

[Kevin Finnerty]

I generally give my extra uniforms and gear to other umpires, or in one case, I put together a package of my original gear to get a guy started in umpiring. If I ever did sell something, I would sell it at something of a loss, knowing that I got some good use out of it, which is worth something.

So I can't relate to gouging a fellow umpire in some bidding war that is established by some bizarre story of a "friend," who sold his mask for $1150. Good grief.

[umpgdubs3]

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR BIDS.... MASK HAS SOLD AND WILL NOW HAVE A NEW FACE YELLING BEHIND IT..... SORRY IT NEVER MADE IT TO E BAY.


INUmp
CAPS ARE FOR YOU SHOOTER...

[MrUmpire]

There's a sucker born every minute.

[Kevin Finnerty]

... A quote that has always been falsely attributed to P.T. Barnum, a far too dignified fellow to have uttered it.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

If I ever did sell something, I would sell it at something of a loss, knowing that I got some good use out of it, which is worth something.

Why would you sell it at a loss when there are people willing to pay more for it? The mask is cool and some people are willing to pay a lot of money for it.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Because I have self-respect, respect for my peers and respect for this craft. I'm both lucky and thankful that I was raised better than to gouge my peers. You go ahead and operate that way, and I'll be dignified and honorable, instead.

I give gear (and uniforms) away, or sell it at a loss if I used it only slightly. I'm a lot more comfortable with that than I would be taking advantage of another umpire.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Because I have self-respect, respect for my peers and respect for this craft. I'm both lucky and thankful that I was raised better than to gouge my peers. You go ahead and operate that way, and I'll be dignified and honorable, instead.

Me and the other 125 million people who use eBay will.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I have to ask, how is it gouging to sell something for what the market will bear? Is it gouging to sell my used car to a college kid for $1000, assuming that's what the market value is?

How do you define gouging?

Originally Posted by Ump153

In colloquial usage, it means simply that the speaker thinks the price too high, and it often degenerates into a term of demagoguery. Non-pejorative uses are generally in reaction to what the writer believes is an unjustified restraint on the market.[/I]

If someone says they're being grilled, it doesn't mean they are actually on a grill being cooked, but everyone who hears the term knows what is meant by it.

When too high a price is charged for something, and someone like me calls it gouging, even though the particular offense is not in keeping with the kind of activity that is commonly associated with its literal translation, it is still fairly easily determined what is being described. I also define it as gouging specifically due to its being done umpire-to-umpire.

I also attest that the what-the-market-will-bear approach to draining people of every drop you can has had rather devastating results. Look around. It does not work.

[UmpJM]

Kevin,

To my way of thinking, he wasn't "gouging".

It comes down to the diference between need and desire.

If an individual or group has temporarily (or permanently, I guess) "cornered the market" in something that other people need and charge an "excessive" price for it, to me, that is "gouging".

When somebody tries to sell something "scarce" that nobody needs, but some people "want" (some of them pretty badly, apparently) for an excessive price, I don't see anything unethical, immoral, or otherwise "unsavory" about it.

Nobody made you the "jello sheriff". Take it outside.

JM

[Ump153]

I agree this wasn't gouging. The original poster was not the sole source or even a primary source for the mask. He was looking for an amateur umpire with more money than brains or a pro umpire who was too impatient to wait the required time to get the mask for $150.

According to him, he found one or the other.




Edited to fix a major brain fart.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Ump153

The original poster was not the soul source...

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Wow. Talk about a screw up...I guess my parents should be asking the state of Oregon for their money back.

Thanks for the humor along with the skewering. It made the embarrassment a little more bearable.