rule 4.03 & 4.03(a)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

In the real world, I have never had anyone ever say anything about an F3/F5 having a foot in foul ground prior to the pitch.

I don't allow it. F3 can hold the runner on base in the correct manner, which is both feet in fair territory, and the line is in fair territory, so touching the line is fine. But his foot completely outside the line is not, and I make them do it right. Allowing F3 to stand outside the foul line gives him an unfair advantage over the baserunner, IMO.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I don't allow it. F3 can hold the runner on base in the correct manner, which is both feet in fair territory, and the line is in fair territory, so touching the line is fine. But his foot completely outside the line is not, and I make them do it right. Allowing F3 to stand outside the foul line gives him an unfair advantage over the baserunner, IMO.

1) In FED, having one foot on the line and one in foul is allowed.

2) In OBR, it's allowed until someone complains (per PBUC interp).

[johnnyg08]

Are you sure Bob? I'm pretty sure FED has the same interp as PBUC.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Are you sure Bob? I'm pretty sure FED has the same interp as PBUC.

johnny,

Yes, he's sure.

You may be "pretty sure", but you're wrong.

Yes, I'm sure.

JM

[Kevin Finnerty]

Wee Willie Keeler and John McGraw and other little pests like them used to float little backspin bunts that would land fair and then turn left and shoot foul, making it impossible to throw them out. So the third baseman would often play in shallow foul territory, because the ball could merely land fair and was playable. That was the genesis of the rule that all other players be stationed in fair territory (and also the rule requiring a batted ball to remain fair or reach a base to be fair).

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Wee Willie Keeler and John McGraw and other little pests like them used to float little backspin bunts that would land fair and then turn left and shoot foul, making it impossible to throw them out. So the third baseman would often play in shallow foul territory, because the ball could merely land fair and was playable. That was the genesis of the rule that all other players be stationed in fair territory (and also the rule requiring a batted ball to remain fair or reach a base to be fair).

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