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I agree with your post tcarilli.

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Originally Posted by tcarilli (Post 621487)

What is the reference for that (ie relaxed vs. not relaxed).

It's in many of the reference material. Here's one:

PBUC 2009 Updates, 3.4J (it's essentially the same play as being discussed here, ecxcept F5 throws the ball out of play attempting to "double up" R1); Doesn't the act of the third baseman throwing the ball out of play nullify a succeeding appeal attempt? That is, hasn't the defense erred on its first attempt to appeal? rULING: nO. thE WILD THROW BY THE THIRD BASEMAN IS PART OF THE CONTINUOUS ACTION CREATED BY THE BATTER HITTING THE BALL ABD DOES NBOT NULLIFY A SUBSEQUENT APPEAL AFTER THE CONTINUOUS ACTION HAS ENDED.

(Apolgies for the caps)

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Originally Posted by SAump (Post 621367)

Umpire communication question: Do you "coach" an appeal out of the defense?

I see this all the time in LL. I just say, "The ball is dead." With arms folded.

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Originally Posted by aceholleran (Post 621538)

I see this all the time in LL. I just say, "The ball is dead." With arms folded.

I would not say that, as it might suggest to the ignorati that the defense cannot appeal.

If asked whether they should appeal, I usually reply: "I can't answer that question." If asked whether they can appeal, I usually reply: "You can always appeal."