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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:11pm
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The first one was a terrible call -- there's no doubt about it -- I was sitting down the first base line and my season ticket partner (who's also a HS/college umpire) and I looked at each other and wondered if this would lead to fireworks. The bat barely flinched. He called it a swinging strike from the plate.

The second call was right, but only because he went to the line umpire.
IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:15pm
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So you see, this is a judgement call. What I interpret as a strike and what you interpret maybe different. That is why baseball is different that other sports. There are rules and then there are interpretations. BBall and football don't have those interpretations.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:20pm
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IMO the batter offered at the pitch but was able to keep the bat back. It is not whether the bat flinches, it's if the batter attempts to swing and that is what I feel he did.

The Brewers were pissed because their pitcher couldn't find the zone for the first couple of innings and then they messed up their chance to score with bases loaded and 1 out. The way the Brewer's hitter performed that night was reason enough to eject those two bench coaches.
Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:28pm
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Forgive me for being rude, but no f#$%ing way was that an offer. Under no possible interpretation of an offer was that an offer.
See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:32pm
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See that's what I am talking about. This isn't about a tag before the runner hits the base. This is a judgement call.

Now the bigger question, If you were the coach would you give me grief if I was the umpire and made the same call?
Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 12:42pm
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Only if I didn't have a problem with getting run. Everyone knows that (1) coaches don't argue and (2) you don't argue balls and strikes. So I know if I open my yap, I'm gonna get chunked.
I would bet a day's salary that the average MLB umpire misses less than 3% of pitches called. And I would also bet that the average MLB umpire misses less than 1% of called plays. Taking that into consideration, private internet posters calling one umpire the worst MLB umpire is really splitting hairs because the average umpire's numbers are so good.

Now if there was a post regarding a MLB ump being an ashwhole, that would be another situation. There are ashwholes everywhere.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 01:32pm
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So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.
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Old Thu Jul 30, 2009, 09:45pm
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So that's all there is to umpiring? Calling strikes and making calls. Cool.

Then Hohn is somewhat average, I guess.
You guess that Hohn is somewhat average? Not even all the way average? Normal people are able to see that everyone who works MLB is very good; no one is somewhat average.
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