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jwwashburn Thu Jul 23, 2009 02:37pm

Mariners Mark Lowe balk?
 
I have never seen this guy pitch but his "set" seems to be a balk every time-no stop.

He is a reliever for the Mariners. I am watching him right now on mlb tv

mbyron Thu Jul 23, 2009 02:47pm

If there are no runners, the requirement to stop lapses. Relievers often pitch from the set even with no runners.

And your link does not come up with any video of this pitcher.

jwwashburn Thu Jul 23, 2009 02:54pm

There was a runner on base.

I was not linking to a video of the pitcher. I merely said where I was watching the game.

SanDiegoSteve Thu Jul 23, 2009 03:46pm

Well, if you want comments on it, you need to post the video for us.

jwwashburn Thu Jul 23, 2009 03:49pm

I was wondering if anyone else has seen this guy pitch and noticed the same thing.

If I find video, I will post it asap!

Kevin Finnerty Thu Jul 23, 2009 04:55pm

I did not see a link this balk either, but I did decide to subscribe to MLB.com TV and man am I glad I did!

Thanks, Wash!

jwwashburn Thu Jul 23, 2009 06:50pm

MLB.com TV is FANTASTIC as long as you do not plan to work during the day on Tuesdays, Wednesdays or Thursdays

Umpmazza Fri Jul 24, 2009 08:46am

Im a huge M's fan and no its not a balk, very close, but not one...

jwwashburn Fri Jul 24, 2009 02:23pm

I am a huge M's fan, so trust me, the M's pitcher is not balking...pretty funny. The guy "bounces" his hands instead of setting them. I am still efforitng a video clip.

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 24, 2009 03:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umpmazza (Post 616571)
Im a huge M's fan and no its not a balk, very close, but not one...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 616658)
I am a huge M's fan, so trust me, the M's pitcher is not balking...pretty funny. The guy "bounces" his hands instead of setting them. I am still efforitng a video clip.

I'm with Joe here...a change of direction is not a stop, and bouncing the hands is a balk. This of course without seeing it, but based on Joe's description, sounds like a balk that isn't being called. The rules are clear about making sure the pitcher doesn't try to "beat the rule" by not coming to a stop.

jwwashburn Fri Jul 24, 2009 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 616675)
I'm with Joe here...a change of direction is not a stop, and bouncing the hands is a balk. This of course without seeing it, but based on Joe's description, sounds like a balk that isn't being called. The rules are clear about making sure the pitcher doesn't try to "beat the rule" by not coming to a stop.

Anyone that has an MLB.com account can watch this guy pitch in the archives of the 7-23-09 game vs the Tigers.

I have seen several hundreds of MLB pitchers and have not seen this since I have learned the rule (20 years ago?)

Now, my son and I have watched several games from the 1970's and it seems like nobody ever stopped...did the rule change sometime in "recent" memory?

Joe

PS Steve, "recent" does not include Clay Kirby.

jwwashburn Fri Jul 24, 2009 04:08pm

This does not show Lowe Balking but it does have Angels announcer Rex Hudler
say "THE TIE DOES NOT GO TO THE RUNNER"

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Mark Lowe just beats Aybar to first to get second out of 9th - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 24, 2009 04:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwwashburn (Post 616679)
This does not show Lowe Balking but it does have Angels announcer Rex Hudler
say "THE TIE DOES NOT GO TO THE RUNNER"

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | Mark Lowe just beats Aybar to first to get second out of 9th - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Rex is cool. He's one former player that gets it. I always enjoy interviews featuring him.

Kevin Finnerty Fri Jul 24, 2009 08:07pm

He is becoming my favorite all time analyst. Rex sees everything. He is also the most fun guy to listen to that I can even remember. (Mike Krukow is fairly close there.) Rex knows the game so all them struggles with English is forgivable.

Greatest Rex gaffe: He is interviewing then No.1 pick Trevor Bell live during the game the night the Angels drafted the kid. Rex gushes about how the kid's grandfather was the original Bozo the Clown: "I heard your grandpa's the original Bozo the Clown!! ... How's he doing?"

Bell: "Uh, he passed away several years ago."

Rex: "Oh wow, my bad."

SanDiegoSteve Fri Jul 24, 2009 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty (Post 616722)
He is becoming my favorite all time analyst. Rex sees everything. He is also the most fun guy to listen to that I can even remember. (Mike Krukow is fairly close there.) Rex knows the game so all them struggles with English is forgivable.

Greatest Rex gaffe: He is interviewing then No.1 pick Trevor Bell live during the game the night the Angels drafted the kid. Rex gushes about how the kid's grandfather was the original Bozo the Clown: "I heard your grandpa's the original Bozo the Clown!! ... How's he doing?"

Bell: "Uh, he passed away several years ago."

Rex: "Oh wow, my bad."

Favorite Bozo The Clown moment:

Kid to Bozo, "Cram it clown!"

:p


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