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Ump153 Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 614336)
We do it all the time working 2-Man, though, eh?

So, then we should ignore the benefits three man provides, and continue working like we had only two? Heck, in one man the plate takes everything. Why don't we just do that in two man? C'mon.

Rich Mon Jul 13, 2009 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 614336)
We do it all the time working 2-Man, though, eh?

What the previous poster said. We look for advantages working 3-man we don't get with 2 umpires. Why would we plant a guy at third and make U1 do all the work on the double play?

mick Mon Jul 13, 2009 01:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ump153 (Post 614338)
So, then we should ignore the benefits three man provides, and continue working like we had only two? Heck, in one man the plate takes everything. Why don't we just do that in two man? C'mon.



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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 614339)
What the previous poster said. We look for advantages working 3-man we don't get with 2 umpires. Why would we plant a guy at third and make U1 do all the work on the double play?

Shucks, I wouldn't suggest planting an ump at D.
I was just wondering about U1, R1 and position A.
It appears that an attempted pick-off coupled with the double play ratio of 1 ump-1 runner ratio are the driving forces.
Thanks. That helps me.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jul 13, 2009 01:16pm

I enjoy working first base in 3 or 4 man, and being in A for the pickoffs. Makes me feel all "big league.":)

mick Mon Jul 13, 2009 01:26pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve (Post 614350)
I enjoy working first base in 3 or 4 man, and being in A for the pickoffs. Makes me feel all "big league.":)

:)

zm1283 Mon Jul 13, 2009 02:11pm

I don't understand why U1 would not be in A with R1 all the time in 3-man. That's what I've been taught.

bob jenkins Mon Jul 13, 2009 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 614371)
I don't understand why U1 would not be in A with R1 all the time in 3-man. That's what I've been taught.

Mick knows that's what *IS* taught -- he's asking *WHY* is it taught.

And, for a long while in 3-man, the philosophy was to have an umpire in front of the lead runner, so "B and D" was the correct (what was taught) positioning for R1 and R2 (with or without R3).


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